Champagne
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Jcwjosh

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963 posts

138 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Good Morning,

My partner and i have been gifted a 2008 bottle of Dom Perignon following the birth of our son.

We are not huge drinkers but have a few bottles of other champagne in the fridge to celebrate at the end of lockdown.

If possible i would like to keep this bottle but not sure how i can store this, will it be any good in 15-18 years time or should we try and drink it in the next year or 2 ?

I have a dark cubpoard under the stairs would it be worth storing this there ?

Any advice would be appreciated.

All the best,

Josh

Fulmentaljack3t

111 posts

132 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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First off, congrats to you and your partner.

If you don't want to drink it now then, store it on its side in a cool and dark place, the key is consistency of temperature. If it gets too warm for too long, it'll spoil.
2008 is a good year for DP and it will arguably make for better drinking, in 2/3 years when it will have lost a bit of its acidity.

If stored well, there is no reason this shouldn't be good in 15 years, it may even appreciate in value, a little.

Lozw86

903 posts

158 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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I would personally enjoy it at the next suitable opportunity. What do you gain by storing it for years?

Jcwjosh

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963 posts

138 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Lozw86 said:
I would personally enjoy it at the next suitable opportunity. What do you gain by storing it for years?
Usually i would agree but it has come with a nice presentation box marking our sons date of birth etc i thought it would be pretty cool to share it with him one day..

LooneyTunes

9,169 posts

184 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Jcwjosh said:
Lozw86 said:
I would personally enjoy it at the next suitable opportunity. What do you gain by storing it for years?
Usually i would agree but it has come with a nice presentation box marking our sons date of birth etc i thought it would be pretty cool to share it with him one day..
Drink the champagne, keep the box/bottle..? unless you have good storage conditions then keeping it for years longer could well lead to disappointment when you eventually open it.

If you want to have wine to open for major birthdays, consider buying age worthy stuff from a merchant that will allow you to store it with them until it’s needed.

Arranguez

404 posts

99 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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I’ve a bottle of Bollinger RD 1982 in my garage. My dad bought it for me when I passed my PPL at 17. I’m now 43. I always said I’d open it when I changed jobs, then got married, then had children. Done all that, still not opened it. Prob way past its best and in my case shows if you keep it too long the thought of opening it always diminishes. Should have cracked it years ago.

andrewjamesroberts

2,262 posts

230 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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We had this one random night over Christmas. It wasn’t particularly looked after and was bought in the year of distribution. We weren’t expecting much

It was absolutely fantastic almost buttery

PushedDover

7,319 posts

79 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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LooneyTunes said:
Drink the champagne, keep the box/bottle..? unless you have good storage conditions then keeping it for years longer could well lead to disappointment when you eventually open it.

agreed.
Champagne should be enjoyed not necessarily taken as a holy grail of importance- which obviously is a fallacy in itself.e

thebraketester

15,619 posts

164 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Great opportunity to buy a wine fridge and store it properly.

Mobile Chicane

21,882 posts

238 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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I would get it in the fridge and drink it at his christening / first birthday, something like that. Wine does not keep well in a cupboard under the stairs, it needs constant cellar temperature.

It will also be nigh on worthless to resell without proof of temperature controlled storage. I would just drink it.

Wills2

28,719 posts

201 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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It'll be fine up to around 2030-2035 or now.




RDMcG

20,672 posts

233 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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I have a fairly extensive cellar and generally the only things that matter to me are darkness and temperature. It will last, but not if you can't keep it cool .

The 2008 iis an excellent year..see excerpt from Parker review below:

." As I wrote earlier this year, this is the finest Dom Pérignon since 1996, Richard Geoffroy's push for additional ripeness working well with the late-maturing, high-acid vintage. While it can be appreciated young, the 2008 will really start to blossom with five or six years of bottle age".

Jcwjosh

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963 posts

138 months

Friday 12th June 2020
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andrewjamesroberts said:


We had this one random night over Christmas. It wasn’t particularly looked after and was bought in the year of distribution. We weren’t expecting much

It was absolutely fantastic almost buttery
Do you know how it was stored for the 20+ years ?

Jcwjosh

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963 posts

138 months

Friday 12th June 2020
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thebraketester said:
Great opportunity to buy a wine fridge and store it properly.
That is not a bad suggestion, although i am a bit tight on space.. Is there any specifically made to store for a long period of time, most of the coolers i can find seem to indicate it is more of a fridge for short term use.

Murph7355

41,294 posts

282 months

Friday 12th June 2020
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andrewjamesroberts said:


We had this one random night over Christmas. It wasn’t particularly looked after and was bought in the year of distribution. We weren’t expecting much

It was absolutely fantastic almost buttery
I believe 1996 was a particularly good vintage.

1990 too from what I recall a good few years ago.

andrewjamesroberts

2,262 posts

230 months

Friday 12th June 2020
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Jcwjosh said:
andrewjamesroberts said:


We had this one random night over Christmas. It wasn’t particularly looked after and was bought in the year of distribution. We weren’t expecting much

It was absolutely fantastic almost buttery
Do you know how it was stored for the 20+ years ?
Yes a mixture of cellar temp, ambient room temp not looked after at all. I recall it was about 45 quid. Same as many, it wasn’t opened at wedding, birth of child mainly as we expected it to taste like vinegar and didn’t want to be disappointed. So one random December evening we opened it with some friends (after chilling) and it was perfect!

oddman

3,968 posts

278 months

Friday 12th June 2020
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Wills2 said:
It'll be fine up to around 2030-2035 or now.
This is nonsense

Champagne is very sensitive to storage. Doesn't like light and fluctuations of temperature

Although vintage champagne is lovely on release and for a few years if stored well, old champagne is a pretty niche taste. The buttery, brioche tastes change to toasted nuts and eventually become odd and sherryish.

Get it drunk and buy some port for the 21st birthday.

LooneyTunes

9,169 posts

184 months

Saturday 13th June 2020
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oddman said:
Wills2 said:
It'll be fine up to around 2030-2035 or now.
This is nonsense

Champagne is very sensitive to storage. Doesn't like light and fluctuations of temperature

Although vintage champagne is lovely on release and for a few years if stored well, old champagne is a pretty niche taste. The buttery, brioche tastes change to toasted nuts and eventually become odd and sherryish.

Get it drunk and buy some port for the 21st birthday.
100% agree. Leaving it lying around for another 10-15 years of conditions aren’t great could lead to disappointment.

I’ve got good storage but think the oldest I have left are some 00s (mainly large formats recently removed from storage) that will be dealt with over the next year or two, but am generally opening 02/07/08. Don’t think I’ve taken delivery of any 09/12s yet, leaving those in professional storage until needed.

Jcwjosh said:
thebraketester said:
Great opportunity to buy a wine fridge and store it properly.
That is not a bad suggestion, although i am a bit tight on space.. Is there any specifically made to store for a long period of time, most of the coolers i can find seem to indicate it is more of a fridge for short term use.
Yes, there are.

At the top end there are Eurocave (best be sitting down when you look at the price) who are the market leader in ones that heat as well as cool (for if you’re keeping in places where the ambient temp would drop below cellar temp). Can’t remember when exactly I got mine, somewhere 15-20 years, and and been faultless There’s another manufacturer that does the heat/cool thing too but forget their name.

Lower down you get ones that are more like domestic fridges, but still with filtered airflow. They only cool, but for in a house or warmer garage they’re absolutely fine. I also have a Liebherr kicking around which has proven reliable over a 20 year period.

The problem with these is that they wouldn’t be efficient just guarding a single bottle. You need to add a few more bottles. However when you start adding a few more bottles of wine to lay down you’ll discover that your wine buying rate quickly overpowers your storage facilities. After which you’re in to multiple storage fridges. After which things start getting really serious! wink

Edited by LooneyTunes on Saturday 13th June 07:24