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Not sure if this is for Food & Drink or Health.
Anyone heard about this book that's out, by Prof Tim Spector. Basically saying a lot of the stuff we've been told about food and healthy eating is b
ks, fed to us by the food industry to maximise profits. Stuff like breakfast being the most important meal of the day, total crap he reckons.
He was on the radio and was very entertaining. He was furiously attacking the culture of "snacks", a completely human construct he says. To roughly quote, "when did you last see a lion eating a squirrel in between catching antelopes".
Says we've developed a phobia of hunger, and that we have to ward off hunger at all costs. Why? Hunger is natural. We're supposed to be hungry, especially as it gets closer to the time of our next meal, and further from out last. He says when he was a kid, there were no fat kids and precious few fat adults. And everyone was hungry when it was meal time, because they'd not eaten since the last meal.
He's not a fan of processed foods, or calories either, says they are often 20% out on packaged food and much more out on restaurant menus.
Fascinating stuff. Not quite fascinating enough to actually buy the book and stop snacking though!
Anyone heard about this book that's out, by Prof Tim Spector. Basically saying a lot of the stuff we've been told about food and healthy eating is b
ks, fed to us by the food industry to maximise profits. Stuff like breakfast being the most important meal of the day, total crap he reckons.He was on the radio and was very entertaining. He was furiously attacking the culture of "snacks", a completely human construct he says. To roughly quote, "when did you last see a lion eating a squirrel in between catching antelopes".
Says we've developed a phobia of hunger, and that we have to ward off hunger at all costs. Why? Hunger is natural. We're supposed to be hungry, especially as it gets closer to the time of our next meal, and further from out last. He says when he was a kid, there were no fat kids and precious few fat adults. And everyone was hungry when it was meal time, because they'd not eaten since the last meal.
He's not a fan of processed foods, or calories either, says they are often 20% out on packaged food and much more out on restaurant menus.
Fascinating stuff. Not quite fascinating enough to actually buy the book and stop snacking though!
He's right about one thing, there were far fewer fat kids. You only need to look at your old school photos to see the absence of 'tubbies'; those I have from the '50s and '60s show none at all. If we had biscuits, crisps or cake back then it was when we had visitors or for a special occasion.
Now, I hate to admit, we always have some in the house and a cuppa isn't a cuppa without a biscuit - or three.
Now, I hate to admit, we always have some in the house and a cuppa isn't a cuppa without a biscuit - or three.
Oh yes 'the sweet you can eat between meals without getting full' - it's evil if you think about it. You might as well say give your kids some pointless sugary shte and make them fat.
At least snack companies, in the main, don't pretend to be healthy. Sports nutrition is a particular bugbear of mine - pure marketing - the nutritional value of most 'recovery' products is dubious to say the least and a poor substitute for plain old water and a decent balanced meal made from scratch. Breakfast cereal is a purely industrial construct designed to get the drones fuelled and into the factory.
Hunger is something we do avoid and anyone wanting to lose weight would do well to spend a day or two experimenting with their feelings of hunger by not eating and seeing how hunger comes and goes. By drinking plenty and observing one's desire to eat without satisfying it, it's possible to recognise the difference between 'head hunger' which is IMO a combination of habit and poor insulin profile/sugar spiking and 'belly hunger' which is a genuine feeling of emptiness.
Then it's worth trying eating really slowly and mindfully and stopping when feeling full.
te and make them fat.At least snack companies, in the main, don't pretend to be healthy. Sports nutrition is a particular bugbear of mine - pure marketing - the nutritional value of most 'recovery' products is dubious to say the least and a poor substitute for plain old water and a decent balanced meal made from scratch. Breakfast cereal is a purely industrial construct designed to get the drones fuelled and into the factory.
Hunger is something we do avoid and anyone wanting to lose weight would do well to spend a day or two experimenting with their feelings of hunger by not eating and seeing how hunger comes and goes. By drinking plenty and observing one's desire to eat without satisfying it, it's possible to recognise the difference between 'head hunger' which is IMO a combination of habit and poor insulin profile/sugar spiking and 'belly hunger' which is a genuine feeling of emptiness.
Then it's worth trying eating really slowly and mindfully and stopping when feeling full.
Doesn't sound like anything particularly new to me, snacking has always been a no, no and processed foods have always generally been crap and best avoided.
Breakfast not "being the most important meal of the day" I'm not sure about, however cereals in general have always been a bit st and full of sugar.
Agree about fat kids, when I was at school (80's and 90's) there was only 1 fat kid, now they are everywhere, it's (mainly) diet and (lack of) activity pure and simple, but now everyone says that they have xyz medical problem, weird how these medical issues didn't seem to exist 30 years ago!
Breakfast not "being the most important meal of the day" I'm not sure about, however cereals in general have always been a bit s
t and full of sugar. Agree about fat kids, when I was at school (80's and 90's) there was only 1 fat kid, now they are everywhere, it's (mainly) diet and (lack of) activity pure and simple, but now everyone says that they have xyz medical problem, weird how these medical issues didn't seem to exist 30 years ago!
Edited by HTP99 on Saturday 29th August 08:29
thebraketester said:
Mobile Chicane said:
Back in the day, you cleared your plate and didn't waste food either.
No excuses that you were 'full up', because you weren't.
I read that humming the music from the hovis advert. No excuses that you were 'full up', because you weren't.
congratulations yet another post glorifying child abuse and contributing to the rise of eating disorders
Edited by enpointe on Saturday 29th August 13:51
enpointe said:
thebraketester said:
Mobile Chicane said:
Back in the day, you cleared your plate and didn't waste food either.
No excuses that you were 'full up', because you weren't.
I read that humming the music from the hovis advert. No excuses that you were 'full up', because you weren't.
congratulations yet another post glorifying child abuse and contributing to the rise of eating disorders
thebraketester said:
enpointe said:
thebraketester said:
Mobile Chicane said:
Back in the day, you cleared your plate and didn't waste food either.
No excuses that you were 'full up', because you weren't.
I read that humming the music from the hovis advert. No excuses that you were 'full up', because you weren't.
congratulations yet another post glorifying child abuse and contributing to the rise of eating disorders
Europa1 said:
thebraketester said:
enpointe said:
thebraketester said:
Mobile Chicane said:
Back in the day, you cleared your plate and didn't waste food either.
No excuses that you were 'full up', because you weren't.
I read that humming the music from the hovis advert. No excuses that you were 'full up', because you weren't.
congratulations yet another post glorifying child abuse and contributing to the rise of eating disorders
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