Stand Mixers
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Voldemort

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7,169 posts

300 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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Why are these so fking expensive?

Not just the top of the range KitchenAid things but just a stand mixer that comes from a company you might have heard of is around 200 notes.

Why? You can get chainsaw for half the price. I'll grant that a chainsaw might not be the ideal tool for breadmaking but as an example of getting a complicated heavy machine to the user for a fair price I'll stick with it.

Anyway, we need a stand mixer. Any help, advice or ridicule is gratefully sought...

21TonyK

12,843 posts

231 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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Currys are doing 5 year guarantees on some at the moment. Personal preference is Kenwood for longevity based on experience of several makes.

Depends if you want something pretty enough to sit on the side or small enough to keep in a cupboard.

This is cheap for what it is.

https://ao.com/product/khc29a0si-kenwood-prospero-...

Mobile Chicane

21,753 posts

234 months

Sunday 14th March 2021
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Kitchen jewellery. I hate them in the pro kitchen.

Apart from creaming butter/sugar, or Genoise sponge, I prefer to work by hand.

sherman

14,803 posts

237 months

Sunday 14th March 2021
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I got this as a christmas present this year. Its still my current favourite kitchen toy.
Bread dough can be mixed in 5 mins whilst I watch tv.
Many other uses to be investigated from the pto on the front.
Considering the ice cream making bowl for summer time.




Gingerbread Man

9,173 posts

235 months

Sunday 14th March 2021
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I bought the wife the above KitchenAid in red a few years back as she likes to bake. Both that and the Kenwood got good reviews, but the KitchenAid won the day for some reason.
My retired parents still have an original Kenwood from back when. Still going strong, a real work horse. Time's might have changed though.

M5-911

1,529 posts

67 months

Sunday 14th March 2021
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Plenty of machines available for homecooks.

If you don't have much money (I have seen homecooks doing pastry with that thing that many chefs could only dream of) :

https://www.amazon.co.uk/MOULINEX-Mixer-stand-STAI...

That little Moulinex is perfect to start with and just above £200 ( there are a few pro chef pastry on YouTube using it for their personal YouTube channel) :
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Moulinex-Masterchef-Gourm...

Again, another reasonably priced machine from one of the best home brand:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kenwood-kMix-Stand-Mixer-...

Now, i am going a bit more expensive. This one is the best home machine money can buy (I know a few chefs who only use this one once at home). I don't thnk that I have ever seen it coming behind a Keenwood or Kitchenaid in any review. It's mixing concept is just so much better:
https://www.amazon.com/Ankarsrum-Original-6230-Chr...


If you want to go with style, i reckon a kitchen artisan is what a lot of people would go for and not completely crazy price wise :
https://www.amazon.co.uk/KitchenAid-Matte-Grey-Min...

Same here, if you are a keenwood person and want the equivalent of the kitchen artisan(similar price), the titanium is ok:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kenwood-Titanium-KVC7300S...

This is only a few ideas with reasonable prices. I can go towards professional machines (the ones I use) but it would be useless for home cooking.

Have fun!



Edited by M5-911 on Sunday 14th March 06:05

LeadFarmer

7,411 posts

153 months

Sunday 14th March 2021
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Kenwood and Kitchen Aid are known to last forever, but in not sure if that just means they used to be well made, but less so now?

I bought a Kenwood Chef a few years ago, and it wasn't cheap, but I factored it into the cost of the new kitchen we were having.

Seeing as I'd 'invested' so much money, I thought I ought to buy some of the accessories to make full use of it - juicer, grinding mills, blender jug etc.
It's a big unit and is a bit impractical to keep lifting in/out of the cupboard every time we want to use it, but similarly it's a big unit to have kept on the worktop. Oh, and the box it came in was the size of a small car.

It does get plenty of use, we use the blending jug a fair bit, the juicer less so, and the mills - not sure if I've ever used them?
Will be mixing pizza dough in it tomorrow.

Voldemort

Original Poster:

7,169 posts

300 months

Sunday 14th March 2021
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Thank you for the replies.

It's needed because the old food processor has died after 20 years, and that was only ever used to make cakes: the mound of blades and plastic dooh-dahs it came with have never been used.

It'll be used for making cakes and bread, so no need for any accessories. The KitchenAid Classic can be had for £300 and I'll likely say 'ouch' on behalf of my wallet and stump for one of those.

I'm still not seeing why they aren't a similar price to a microwave or a bread maker though.

aparna

1,156 posts

59 months

Sunday 14th March 2021
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I just forked out 300 quid for a kitchen aid, I'm certain could be done with a 50 quid version.

Not only that, it has to sit proud in the centre of the work top for ever. And it seems to have a sports exhaust. They do seem to be status symbols.

Too late for me. But perhaps not too late for you.

sherman

14,803 posts

237 months

Sunday 14th March 2021
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Im assuming its because its got to be heavy duty enough to mix several kilos of dough. The bowl on mine is 4.8l in size. That much dough will take alot of power to shift. The mixer has a 300w (I assume high torque) motor. The metal casing is a couple mm thick painted metal. The power take off for grinders etc is another bit of complexity.

You are also paying for the name. Its like you can buy a beko washing machine or a miele washing mashine. Which one does PH keep recomending though?

Kawasicki

14,093 posts

257 months

Sunday 14th March 2021
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My wife wanted one of those german do-it-all food processor things, it cost the same as a tidy muscle bike (priorities!) so we bought a kitchenaid stand mixer. That was about 10 years ago, and I must admit, the constant supply of cake has been f-ing brilliant.

sherman

14,803 posts

237 months

Sunday 14th March 2021
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Kawasicki said:
My wife wanted one of those german do-it-all food processor things, it cost the same as a tidy muscle bike (priorities!) so we bought a kitchenaid stand mixer. That was about 10 years ago, and I must admit, the constant supply of cake has been f-ing brilliant.
Do you now need the muscle bike to burn of the cake? hehe

Edited by sherman on Sunday 14th March 13:53

moorx

4,372 posts

136 months

Sunday 14th March 2021
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I have one of these, which I am perfectly happy with, but have only used it to make cakes:

https://www.lakeland.co.uk/61782/Lakeland-2-in-1-H...

I only bought this because I was given a £50 Lakeland voucher for my birthday by work colleagues, and also had a £5 off voucher, so I only had to pay £5 in the end. I think my work colleagues only did it to ensure a regular supply of cakes!

I could never personally justify the cost of a KitchenAid or Kenwood.

paralla

5,030 posts

157 months

Sunday 14th March 2021
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Voldemort said:
Thank you for the replies.

It's needed because the old food processor has died after 20 years, and that was only ever used to make cakes: the mound of blades and plastic dooh-dahs it came with have never been used.

It'll be used for making cakes and bread, so no need for any accessories. The KitchenAid Classic can be had for £300 and I'll likely say 'ouch' on behalf of my wallet and stump for one of those.

I'm still not seeing why they aren't a similar price to a microwave or a bread maker though.
I expect it’s the helical, worm and bevel gear transmission in a Kitchen Aid that makes them expensive to manufacture.

Kawasicki

14,093 posts

257 months

Sunday 14th March 2021
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sherman said:
Kawasicki said:
My wife wanted one of those german do-it-all food processor things, it cost the same as a tidy muscle bike (priorities!) so we bought a kitchenaid stand mixer. That was about 10 years ago, and I must admit, the constant supply of cake has been f-ing brilliant.
Do you now need the muscle bike to burn of the cake? hehe

Edited by sherman on Sunday 14th March 13:53
Yes the effort required to ride it like I stole it (but don’t like hospitals) shouldn’t be underestimated.

M5-911

1,529 posts

67 months

Sunday 14th March 2021
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Voldemort said:
Thank you for the replies.

It's needed because the old food processor has died after 20 years, and that was only ever used to make cakes: the mound of blades and plastic dooh-dahs it came with have never been used.

It'll be used for making cakes and bread, so no need for any accessories. The KitchenAid Classic can be had for £300 and I'll likely say 'ouch' on behalf of my wallet and stump for one of those.

I'm still not seeing why they aren't a similar price to a microwave or a bread maker though.
Just one thing to remember with Kitchenaid UK. if you have a problem with your "mixer". Your customer service for your machine is in Belgium and not in the UK (UK don't deal with small appliance). it has already created a few issues as we are not part of the EU anymore.

21TonyK

12,843 posts

231 months

Sunday 14th March 2021
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Only other comment is if you are paying decent money for KA don't think its such a well engineered machine as shown above. Several parts of the drive are plastic in domestic machines. Although this is for good reason, they will shear and break before damaging the more expensive motor.

I worked through two KA's making bread dough on a daily basis. In a domestic setting I am sure they are fine but don;t think you are buying anything significantly better than the cheaper options,

12TS

2,171 posts

232 months

Sunday 14th March 2021
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Had our KA for 10 years or so now. Great piece of kit.

Had to do a repair to a split pin. Not difficult and plenty of spares on line.

I’d buy another in an instant, but I’d be wary of paying ££££ for a fancy colour.

Melman Giraffe

6,794 posts

240 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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21TonyK

12,843 posts

231 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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Melman Giraffe said:
Hard to knock that one, £50, 800w motor and a 5 litre bowl with a 3 year warranty. If it wasn't for the colour...