B2c coffee machines
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I have a moka and a filter and they always brew a huge cup of coffee. All the Nespresso machines and b2c machines seem to be focused solely on cappuccinos or espressos, I,e, minimal coffee. Are there any ph director level machines out there that take beans and produce a feckload pot (or thereabouts) of actual coffee? 10mls of espresso just won’t do.
I have a moka and a filter and they always brew a huge cup of coffee. All the Nespresso machines and b2c machines seem to be focused solely on cappuccinos or espressos, I,e, minimal coffee. Are there any ph director level machines out there that take beans and produce a feckload pot (or thereabouts) of actual coffee? 10mls of espresso just won’t do.
We only drink long black ‘Americano’ coffee but the bean to cup machines only seem to last about 3 years so we just buy the cheapest. Just got one of these:-
https://www.johnlewis.com/delonghi-esam2200-venezi...
https://www.johnlewis.com/delonghi-esam2200-venezi...
I usually do the same, brew an espresso then top it up with hot water
Recently I bought a Nespresso Vertuo machine for the office which makes exactly the sort of coffee you describe.
The coffee is decent (if not as good as a proper espresso topped up with water) but the pods seem to be Nespresso only still so aren’t as cheap or readily available (although you can get them on Amazon)
Recently I bought a Nespresso Vertuo machine for the office which makes exactly the sort of coffee you describe.
The coffee is decent (if not as good as a proper espresso topped up with water) but the pods seem to be Nespresso only still so aren’t as cheap or readily available (although you can get them on Amazon)
bad company said:
We only drink long black ‘Americano’ coffee but the bean to cup machines only seem to last about 3 years so we just buy the cheapest. Just got one of these:-
https://www.johnlewis.com/delonghi-esam2200-venezi...
My ESAM from May 2014 is still going strong. When it does break I'll certainly be getting another. What's nice is that spares and youtube information does exist - although I don't recall anything ever going wrong with it. https://www.johnlewis.com/delonghi-esam2200-venezi...
I wouldn't describe it as producing a 'feck load' though - the water tank & grounds catcher isn't that large. You can dial in a single serving to fill a mug - I take mine black.
Edited by Chris Type R on Sunday 5th September 20:32
Schmed said:
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I have a moka and a filter and they always brew a huge cup of coffee. All the Nespresso machines and b2c machines seem to be focused solely on cappuccinos or espressos, I,e, minimal coffee. Are there any ph director level machines out there that take beans and produce a feckload pot (or thereabouts) of actual coffee? 10mls of espresso just won’t do.
As mentioned above the Nespresso Vertuo machine can produce 414 ml measure of coffee from one pod. If that's not enough it will produce another very quickly. I've only just got mine and have all of the coffee making machines known to man (slight exaggeration but nearly there) and so far the Vertuo has not made a coffee I don't like.I have a moka and a filter and they always brew a huge cup of coffee. All the Nespresso machines and b2c machines seem to be focused solely on cappuccinos or espressos, I,e, minimal coffee. Are there any ph director level machines out there that take beans and produce a feckload pot (or thereabouts) of actual coffee? 10mls of espresso just won’t do.
Plus the Nespresso site do offers that are pretty good.
Chris Type R said:
bad company said:
We only drink long black ‘Americano’ coffee but the bean to cup machines only seem to last about 3 years so we just buy the cheapest. Just got one of these:-
https://www.johnlewis.com/delonghi-esam2200-venezi...
My ESAM from May 2014 is still going strong. When it does break I'll certainly be getting another. What's nice is that spares and youtube information does exist - although I don't recall anything ever going wrong with it. https://www.johnlewis.com/delonghi-esam2200-venezi...
I wouldn't describe it as producing a 'feck load' though - the water tank & grounds catcher isn't that large. You can dial in a single serving to fill a mug - I take mine black.
Edited by Chris Type R on Sunday 5th September 20:32
Is it something kike this that the OP wants. Ifs not cheap though at £1200
https://www.delonghi.com/en-gb/ecam610-75-mb-prima...
https://www.delonghi.com/en-gb/ecam610-75-mb-prima...
Schmed said:
Sorry mods, please redirect if not a GG topic.
I have a moka and a filter and they always brew a huge cup of coffee. All the Nespresso machines and b2c machines seem to be focused solely on cappuccinos or espressos, I,e, minimal coffee. Are there any ph director level machines out there that take beans and produce a feckload pot (or thereabouts) of actual coffee? 10mls of espresso just won’t do.
The Nespresso Vertuo has pods for long drinks.I have a moka and a filter and they always brew a huge cup of coffee. All the Nespresso machines and b2c machines seem to be focused solely on cappuccinos or espressos, I,e, minimal coffee. Are there any ph director level machines out there that take beans and produce a feckload pot (or thereabouts) of actual coffee? 10mls of espresso just won’t do.
It's of a pretty poor standard, but better than instant.
RobbieTheTruth said:
Schmed said:
Sorry mods, please redirect if not a GG topic.
I have a moka and a filter and they always brew a huge cup of coffee. All the Nespresso machines and b2c machines seem to be focused solely on cappuccinos or espressos, I,e, minimal coffee. Are there any ph director level machines out there that take beans and produce a feckload pot (or thereabouts) of actual coffee? 10mls of espresso just won’t do.
The Nespresso Vertuo has pods for long drinks.I have a moka and a filter and they always brew a huge cup of coffee. All the Nespresso machines and b2c machines seem to be focused solely on cappuccinos or espressos, I,e, minimal coffee. Are there any ph director level machines out there that take beans and produce a feckload pot (or thereabouts) of actual coffee? 10mls of espresso just won’t do.
It's of a pretty poor standard, but better than instant.
For the record I do like my coffee with milk, I've tried so many types of beans etc and couldn't really find one I liked that much and when you commit yourself to buying a quantity of beans that aren't to your taste it's a pain. Whereas at the moment I'm trying and enjoying the 10 different regions/variety of capsules that came with the machine noting which are my favourites and enjoying the flavour of every one so far
We have a Melitta Caffeo brought early 2018 so 3 years old. So far we've replaced the water tank and milk container as either cracked when cleaning or dropped cheap plastic. Otherwise main part that fails rubber grommet to drive the brewing unit. I think £50 has covered these items. You can choose the amount of coffee per cup and how much the bean is grinded.
Its used very frequently by us and when I did my calculations it paid for itself compared to our older nespresso pods within 2 years.
My parents on other hand have a Gaggia basic unit, brought 2009? Apparently manufacture refurbished from their store thar was in Street (clarks village) and is still going strong. They live in a hard water area and prefer to use bottled water. Does need the kettle to top up the mugs.
Just got my brother a Delonghi bean machine dedica? Again another new refurbish type deal off ebay at £105 but you can pick up for £165 new now.
As much as I'd love to go for a cheaper machine next time the Melitta with automated 2 bean selection just suits us with his&hers.
Its used very frequently by us and when I did my calculations it paid for itself compared to our older nespresso pods within 2 years.
My parents on other hand have a Gaggia basic unit, brought 2009? Apparently manufacture refurbished from their store thar was in Street (clarks village) and is still going strong. They live in a hard water area and prefer to use bottled water. Does need the kettle to top up the mugs.
Just got my brother a Delonghi bean machine dedica? Again another new refurbish type deal off ebay at £105 but you can pick up for £165 new now.
As much as I'd love to go for a cheaper machine next time the Melitta with automated 2 bean selection just suits us with his&hers.
BIRMA said:
RobbieTheTruth said:
Schmed said:
Sorry mods, please redirect if not a GG topic.
I have a moka and a filter and they always brew a huge cup of coffee. All the Nespresso machines and b2c machines seem to be focused solely on cappuccinos or espressos, I,e, minimal coffee. Are there any ph director level machines out there that take beans and produce a feckload pot (or thereabouts) of actual coffee? 10mls of espresso just won’t do.
The Nespresso Vertuo has pods for long drinks.I have a moka and a filter and they always brew a huge cup of coffee. All the Nespresso machines and b2c machines seem to be focused solely on cappuccinos or espressos, I,e, minimal coffee. Are there any ph director level machines out there that take beans and produce a feckload pot (or thereabouts) of actual coffee? 10mls of espresso just won’t do.
It's of a pretty poor standard, but better than instant.
For the record I do like my coffee with milk, I've tried so many types of beans etc and couldn't really find one I liked that much and when you commit yourself to buying a quantity of beans that aren't to your taste it's a pain. Whereas at the moment I'm trying and enjoying the 10 different regions/variety of capsules that came with the machine noting which are my favourites and enjoying the flavour of every one so far
If I went to a coffee shop and was offered Nespresso I wouldn't pay for it.
It's ok for an office and more enjoyable than instant.
That's all I mean.
RobbieTheTruth said:
BIRMA said:
RobbieTheTruth said:
Schmed said:
Sorry mods, please redirect if not a GG topic.
I have a moka and a filter and they always brew a huge cup of coffee. All the Nespresso machines and b2c machines seem to be focused solely on cappuccinos or espressos, I,e, minimal coffee. Are there any ph director level machines out there that take beans and produce a feckload pot (or thereabouts) of actual coffee? 10mls of espresso just won’t do.
The Nespresso Vertuo has pods for long drinks.I have a moka and a filter and they always brew a huge cup of coffee. All the Nespresso machines and b2c machines seem to be focused solely on cappuccinos or espressos, I,e, minimal coffee. Are there any ph director level machines out there that take beans and produce a feckload pot (or thereabouts) of actual coffee? 10mls of espresso just won’t do.
It's of a pretty poor standard, but better than instant.
For the record I do like my coffee with milk, I've tried so many types of beans etc and couldn't really find one I liked that much and when you commit yourself to buying a quantity of beans that aren't to your taste it's a pain. Whereas at the moment I'm trying and enjoying the 10 different regions/variety of capsules that came with the machine noting which are my favourites and enjoying the flavour of every one so far
If I went to a coffee shop and was offered Nespresso I wouldn't pay for it.
It's ok for an office and more enjoyable than instant.
That's all I mean.
As I mentioned on another thread I now have all three machines and over many, many years have bought beans for my machine/process from the likes of Hasbean etc so a decent enough source, and as a self confessed anorak have delved into making coffee purely for my own pleasure.
Perhaps those who drink a small espresso do develop a more discerning palette as opposed to people like me who like it with milk. But I doubt it, and can assure you I know what is a good coffee (for my tastes) and what isn't.
Believe it or not people pay about £8 for a Nespresso coffee in Heston Blumenthal's restaurants.
I do have the time to f*** about making a coffee through a manual process but I found with the first Nespresso machine I bought that I actually preferred many of regions/types of coffee it makes.
Being a sucker for offers I took up the recent Nespresso offer where you got a free Vertuo machine when you buy 200 capsules, so far, apart from a bit too much foam on larger portions but I'll live with that. I haven't yet found one of the ten varieties in the offer pack that I don't really like.
My point is that these new machines do make a very good cup of coffee and anyone looking for a machine should certainly check it out. In fact I'm considering buying a second one for when more than a few friends come around to see me although the single machine can knock out a fair few decent coffees quickly.
Edited by BIRMA on Friday 10th September 09:28
Edited by BIRMA on Friday 10th September 09:30
BIRMA said:
RobbieTheTruth said:
BIRMA said:
RobbieTheTruth said:
Schmed said:
Sorry mods, please redirect if not a GG topic.
I have a moka and a filter and they always brew a huge cup of coffee. All the Nespresso machines and b2c machines seem to be focused solely on cappuccinos or espressos, I,e, minimal coffee. Are there any ph director level machines out there that take beans and produce a feckload pot (or thereabouts) of actual coffee? 10mls of espresso just won’t do.
The Nespresso Vertuo has pods for long drinks.I have a moka and a filter and they always brew a huge cup of coffee. All the Nespresso machines and b2c machines seem to be focused solely on cappuccinos or espressos, I,e, minimal coffee. Are there any ph director level machines out there that take beans and produce a feckload pot (or thereabouts) of actual coffee? 10mls of espresso just won’t do.
It's of a pretty poor standard, but better than instant.
For the record I do like my coffee with milk, I've tried so many types of beans etc and couldn't really find one I liked that much and when you commit yourself to buying a quantity of beans that aren't to your taste it's a pain. Whereas at the moment I'm trying and enjoying the 10 different regions/variety of capsules that came with the machine noting which are my favourites and enjoying the flavour of every one so far
If I went to a coffee shop and was offered Nespresso I wouldn't pay for it.
It's ok for an office and more enjoyable than instant.
That's all I mean.
As I mentioned on another thread I now have all three machines and over many, many years have bought beans for my machine/process from the likes of Hasbean etc so a decent enough source, and as a self confessed anorak have delved into making coffee purely for my own pleasure.
Perhaps those who drink a small espresso do develop a more discerning palette as opposed to people like me who like it with milk. But I doubt it, and can assure you I know what is a good coffee (for my tastes) and what isn't.
Believe it or not people pay about £8 for a Nespresso coffee in Heston Blumenthal's restaurants.
I do have the time to f*** about making a coffee through a manual process but I found with the first Nespresso machine I bought that I actually preferred many of regions/types of coffee it makes.
Being a sucker for offers I took up the recent Nespresso offer where you got a free Vertuo machine when you buy 200 capsules, so far, apart from a bit too much foam on larger portions but I'll live with that. I haven't yet found one of the ten varieties in the offer pack that I don't really like.
My point is that these new machines do make a very good cup of coffee and anyone looking for a machine should certainly check it out. In fact I'm considering buying a second one for when more than a few friends come around to see me although the single machine can knock out a fair few decent coffees quickly.
Edited by BIRMA on Friday 10th September 09:30
There are several examples in the other thread from people who didn't mind Nespresso, then upgraded to manual and can't believe how bitter Nespresso now tastes.
Nobody goes to Fat Duck for their coffee so that's a moot point.
I have both Nespresso machines (standard and Vertuo). They are decent for the office and better than instant. They are absolutely nowhere near manual machines.
If I went to a coffee shop and they offered Nespresso, I wouldn't buy it. I'd be pleasantly surprised if offered it in a friends house. That's where it sits., Compared to what I make with manual, the Nespresso is poor,
sociopath said:
Without getting into the Nespresso argument this thread seems to be morphing into, we have a deLonghi magnifica, had it for 11 years now and still going strong. Set up to produce a full mug americano and it only needs a single button press.
Likewise. I got the Eletta, I think roughly week 3 of the first lockdown last year. Its just clicked over 2000 coffees as shown by the statistics sub menu. In my defence i work long hours...some of them must be the kids using the milk frother to make hot chocolates but as a one button way to deliver a big mug of decent Americano and do the off fancier coffee for guests i am impressed. I change the filter & descale monthly so some maintenance hassle but minimal really and as i got in an Amazon special offer for about £500 i think its done a sterling job so far.
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