Session ales.
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Ultra Sound Guy

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29,178 posts

211 months

Wednesday 18th June
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I like my real ales... always have.
Currently having my daily "after work" pint. The pub I'm in has a good selection of ales and, being a free house, they change regularly.
In front of me is a pump with Purity, session IPA, it's 4.5% abv!
For a session ale?
Session ales should be 3.3-3.8%!
What is the fashion with such strong beers now? I'd have thought that they could produce something drinkable between 2.5 & 3.5% in an age where we are supposed to be drinking less alcohol but, instead, they are increasing the alcohol level or producing 0 to 0.5% beers which taste nothing like an ale!

And don't get me started on all of the extra pale,citrussy IPAs that are all the rage!

cml24

1,507 posts

164 months

Wednesday 18th June
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I am very annoyed at the loss of the traditional mild beer. From being Britain's most popular drink to nearly extinct. A shame as I assume that's what the typical after work pint would have been!

I guess session and ipa should, in theory, not go together as ipa is meant yo be stronger than normal. I regularly see 'best bitter' weaker than so called session beers that doesn't make sense!

Lefty

18,526 posts

219 months

Wednesday 18th June
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I love old fashioned ales. But what I really love are Belgians. Tripels are my favourite but a nice dubbel or quad tickles my pickle too. Mind you, I also love “modern” IPA, DIPA, NEIPA and hazy stuff. And stout. Imperial or otherwise. Not so keen on lager unless it’s German and it’s a hot day.

I like most beer, regardless of strength. Actually I couldn’t care less about the 0-0.5% stuff. I’d rather just drink juice or tonic water.

Ultra Sound Guy

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29,178 posts

211 months

Wednesday 18th June
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cml24 said:
I am very annoyed at the loss of the traditional mild beer. From being Britain's most popular drink to nearly extinct. A shame as I assume that's what the typical after work pint would have been!

I guess session and ipa should, in theory, not go together as ipa is meant yo be stronger than normal. I regularly see 'best bitter' weaker than so called session beers that doesn't make sense!
I can’t remember the last time I saw mild in a pub!

TVR Sagaris

1,126 posts

249 months

Wednesday 18th June
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Young's Original seems to be the most common traditional session ale these days (3.7%) - although it may be limited to London.

MC Bodge

25,215 posts

192 months

Wednesday 18th June
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Ultra Sound Guy said:
cml24 said:
I am very annoyed at the loss of the traditional mild beer. From being Britain's most popular drink to nearly extinct. A shame as I assume that's what the typical after work pint would have been!

I guess session and ipa should, in theory, not go together as ipa is meant yo be stronger than normal. I regularly see 'best bitter' weaker than so called session beers that doesn't make sense!
I can t remember the last time I saw mild in a pub!
You can buy mild in some of the independent pubs in suburban south of the Manchester conurbation.

I like a pint of mild.

Panamax

6,733 posts

51 months

Wednesday 18th June
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Boddingtons.

595Heaven

2,912 posts

95 months

Wednesday 18th June
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Panamax

6,733 posts

51 months

Wednesday 18th June
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Oh dear lord, please preserve me from ever having to drink "Mild".

Once you drop under about 3.4% beer ceases to be beer IMO. Equally well, I don't need the 6% and up stuff. 3.4% to 5.5% covers the ground nicely - lower end for session beers.

Edited by Panamax on Wednesday 18th June 21:16

mikef

5,762 posts

268 months

Wednesday 18th June
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I m quite partial to a nice Gulden Draak at 10.5%. Or their dark Imperial Stout, same %. Not exactly a session ale, and doesn’t improve your driving …

Growing up, my local brewery Thwaites did three lovely milds in their tied houses, the best being the Preston Dark Mild, which was a bit stronger. It was definitely an old boys drink though, sad that it s faded away, I imagine it s tied in with the death of the local pub as a social centre. Near me now, Harvey s produce a drinkable dark mild, but it s not what I remember from my youth

AndyAudi

3,534 posts

239 months

Wednesday 18th June
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Just actually picked up some Belhaven Best (3.2%) from chilled cabinet in my local co-op, used to be my pub pint of choice back in the day!

snuffy

11,545 posts

301 months

Wednesday 18th June
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MC Bodge said:
Ultra Sound Guy said:
cml24 said:
I am very annoyed at the loss of the traditional mild beer. From being Britain's most popular drink to nearly extinct. A shame as I assume that's what the typical after work pint would have been!

I guess session and ipa should, in theory, not go together as ipa is meant yo be stronger than normal. I regularly see 'best bitter' weaker than so called session beers that doesn't make sense!
I can t remember the last time I saw mild in a pub!
You can buy mild in some of the independent pubs in suburban south of the Manchester conurbation.

I like a pint of mild.
I had 4 or 5 pints of mild last week in Chester as it happens:

https://spittingfeathers.co.uk/our-beers/

droopsnoot

13,623 posts

259 months

Thursday 19th June
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Ultra Sound Guy said:
In front of me is a pump with Purity, session IPA, it's 4.5% abv!
For a session ale?
Session ales should be 3.3-3.8%!
One of my regular pubs has just started selling "Alpacalypse" which is sold as a session IPA, and that's 4.3% which I agree seems a bit high. I won't be finding out what it's like because it's £6 a pint, when my normal Abbot is £4.80 a pint in the same place.

On milds, I used to enjoy a half of mild when I first started going to the pub, but it is a long time since I've seen one on regularly. I was surprised to find out that one of my favourite strong beers which is only occasionally on in a local, Sarah Hughes Dark Ruby, is apparently classed as a mild even though it's 6%. Shows that I don't know the difference between mild and bitter, and it's clearly not just the strength.


toon10

6,788 posts

174 months

Thursday 19th June
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Hmm, I love my Belgian Trappist quads which are typically 10%+. You can't session that but my go to beer for enjoying when out or at house parties, etc. is Erdinger or other German Weissbiers. Erdinger is 5.3% I believe. Session beers for me are around 5% and the really nice "two or three beers" are over 10%.

I also think some real ale tends to hit harder than a Weissbier. I can drink 3 or 4 pints of Greeneking Abbots at 5% and feel quite tipsy but it takes 6 or 7 stronger beers to feel the same.

Are there any widely available real ales around the 4% mark that are nice to drink? Being near Newcastle means there are plenty of real ale and traditional pubs around that I can try.

PH5121

2,006 posts

230 months

Thursday 19th June
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My village local had mild on tap, however being a Sam Smiths pub it has been shut for the last 5 years (but that's another story)

Frimley111R

17,408 posts

251 months

Thursday 19th June
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Session beers, to me, are usually 4.0 - 4.2, irrespective of what they are. I know this is lagers but Kroenenburg and Stella, used to be strong stuff a 4.7/4.8 but now many seem to be at 5.0 now. Maybe session beer alcohol content is rising too.

I've always wondered why no-one can make a lower alcohol beer (session level) that doesn't just taste like a weak and watery version of the stronger stuff. Right now I am loving Jaipur but at 5.8% I need to limit that to 3-4 pints, but god it's lovely and from the traditional Indian heartland of Derby hehe

Lotobear

8,074 posts

145 months

Thursday 19th June
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IMO a low gravity session beer needs a healthy dose of ('exotic') hops to make up for the low alcohol content.

There are some great IPA styles around at around 3.4%, such as Hawkshead Windermere Pale, Twice Brewed Luna, Hawkshead ITI (a really nice NZ IPA at around 3.4%).

Lotobear

8,074 posts

145 months

Thursday 19th June
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Frimley111R said:
Session beers, to me, are usually 4.0 - 4.2, irrespective of what they are. I know this is lagers but Kroenenburg and Stella, used to be strong stuff a 4.7/4.8 but now many seem to be at 5.0 now. Maybe session beer alcohol content is rising too.

I've always wondered why no-one can make a lower alcohol beer (session level) that doesn't just taste like a weak and watery version of the stronger stuff. Right now I am loving Jaipur but at 5.8% I need to limit that to 3-4 pints, but god it's lovely and from the traditional Indian heartland of Derby hehe
...called into Spoons in Hexham on Tuesday lunchtime - Jaipur on at £1.99 a pint yikes

Love the stuff but christ it's strong, seems way stronger than the declared ABV suggests

mikef

5,762 posts

268 months

Thursday 19th June
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toon10 said:
Are there any widely available real ales around the 4% mark that are nice to drink? Being near Newcastle means there are plenty of real ale and traditional pubs around that I can try.
The Harvey’s Dark Mild that I mentioned is 2.8%, if you are ever visiting Sussex

RizzoTheRat

27,034 posts

209 months

Thursday 19th June
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mikef said:
I m quite partial to a nice Gulden Draak at 10.5%.
One of my favorites, and like Toon I'm a fan of tripels and quads, they're great winter warmers but not the sort of thing you want to drink too many of in an evening.

I had a 5% pils last night, it was nice but I really need to find more stuff in the 3-4% range for quenching my thirst on a hot summers day. Sadly everything seems to IPAs these days and I'm not a fan.