Cheap honey
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dba3087108

Original Poster:

138 posts

167 months

My kids like porridge and they have been having honey on (from Aldi about £1.80). Is this stuff mainly sugar syrup? And I'm guessing not healthy at all.

normalbloke

8,597 posts

244 months

Probably. Most likely.

Ham_and_Jam

3,441 posts

122 months

Honey is a legally protected, reserved description. So if it’s described as honey, its honey, unless its a fake product. Generally somewhere like Aldi should have procedures in place to ensure it’s genuine.

What I would say though is that honey, whilst it is a natural product and contains some benefits, its still mainly sugar. So treat it as such.

By the way I love honey.


MediumBuild

1,213 posts

3 months

My FIL is a beekeeper. Fake honey is endemic.

https://www.theguardian.com/food/2024/nov/09/nine-...

Bill

57,653 posts

280 months

Ham_and_Jam said:
Honey is a legally protected, reserved description. So if it s described as honey, its honey, unless its a fake product. Generally somewhere like Aldi should have procedures in place to ensure it s genuine.

What I would say though is that honey, whilst it is a natural product and contains some benefits, its still mainly sugar. So treat it as such.

By the way I love honey.
Fakery is rife.

sherman

15,000 posts

240 months

3.2kg for £18.99 should see you through for a while

https://amzn.eu/d/03OJoNAR

MediumBuild

1,213 posts

3 months

From my FIL - keeping bees for 30 years and supplies 2 local farm shops where he lives.

If you're buying honey for the health benefits then it will cost more - no way around that. Rowse, for example, refuse to deny that their honey is UF. Most supermarket honey is, to be frank, st. Most is pollen-free (meaning it can't actually be traced and honey without pollen is sugary syrup), and the temps the honey is exposed to kill pretty much all of the nutritional goodness.

Vague labellings such as 'outside of the EU' are also a tell. Another way to tell poor quality honey is that it doesn't crystallise. Mass-market bees are fed high-frucrose syrup to make them produce more, faster. You're just eating that regurgitated with zero pollen, propolis or royal jelly present.

Buy locally from a beekeeper or a farm shop. Just don't expect to pay buttons for it. You'll see the differences in honey over the year along with changes in flavour and what you're eating is high quality.

FoolsErrand

90 posts

29 months

MediumBuild said:
Vague labellings such as 'outside of the EU' are also a tell.
I don't buy this stuff at all and suspect it barely scrapes over the line for actually being honey.

Bill

57,653 posts

280 months

MediumBuild said:
Buy locally from a beekeeper or a farm shop. Just don't expect to pay buttons for it. You'll see the differences in honey over the year along with changes in flavour and what you're eating is high quality.
And even then be sceptical. A lot of farmers market type honey sellers are selling crap at premium prices.

chip*

1,698 posts

253 months

If the budget permit, buy the proper stuff.
I buy my honey direct from the beekeeper based on IOW which was recommended on an old PH thread.

https://www.bunburybees.co.uk/

Even with postage, they are better value than my locally sourced honey which cost £10/jar!

The Gauge

6,675 posts

38 months

I've spent time scrutinising the labels of jars/bottles of honey at the supermarkets, they all seem to say they are a 'blend' of honeys, whatever that means? I male the assumption that it is all cr@p.

Thankfully one of my neighbours has bee hives and sells it at £4/jar. It's nice thick honey.

I also have a honey shop near me in Sheffield, but haven't got around to going yet, but I intend to.

https://www.medibee.co.uk

LooneyTunes

9,115 posts

183 months

chip* said:
If the budget permit, buy the proper stuff.
I buy my honey direct from the beekeeper based on IOW which was recommended on an old PH thread.

https://www.bunburybees.co.uk/

Even with postage, they are better value than my locally sourced honey which cost £10/jar!
£10/jar isn’t outrageous when you consider what it actually cost to produce. We have literally £thousands invested in kit, plus the time, cost of jars, someone doing it to cover costs needs to be at/around that sort of price.

Most beekeepers undercharge because folk are so accustomed to the low prices of “honey” in the supermarket.

Mobile Chicane

21,864 posts

237 months

My local farm shop honey is absolutely legit and tastes wonderful.

£8.20 a jar from https://etherleyfarm.co.uk/

skilly1

2,863 posts

220 months

Estimates suggest that 60-70% of honey produced or exported from China is adulterated or impure. This "fake" honey is often a blend of rice, beet, or corn syrup rather than being produced solely by bees, with many shipments and blended products failing authenticity tests, especially those sold at low prices in supermarkets.


Key Facts on Chinese Fake Honey:

Adulteration Scale: In 2014, industry reports stated that 60-70% of Chinese honey was adulterated.

Methodology: Much of this honey is made by feeding bees sugar water instead of letting them forage, or by mixing real honey with cheap syrup (rice, beet, corn).

Detection: A 2023 EU study found 46% of imported honey tested was suspicious, with China identified as a primary source.

Transshipment: To bypass restrictions, adulterated Chinese honey is often shipped through other countries to hide its origin.

Supermarket Risk: A significant percentage of honey on supermarket shelves—even those labeled "pure"—is likely blended with syrup, making it difficult to distinguish real honey without lab testing.


RSTurboPaul

12,859 posts

283 months

skilly1 said:
Estimates suggest that 60-70% of honey produced or exported from China is adulterated or impure. This "fake" honey is often a blend of rice, beet, or corn syrup rather than being produced solely by bees, with many shipments and blended products failing authenticity tests, especially those sold at low prices in supermarkets.


Key Facts on Chinese Fake Honey:

Adulteration Scale: In 2014, industry reports stated that 60-70% of Chinese honey was adulterated.

Methodology: Much of this honey is made by feeding bees sugar water instead of letting them forage, or by mixing real honey with cheap syrup (rice, beet, corn).

Detection: A 2023 EU study found 46% of imported honey tested was suspicious, with China identified as a primary source.

Transshipment: To bypass restrictions, adulterated Chinese honey is often shipped through other countries to hide its origin.

Supermarket Risk: A significant percentage of honey on supermarket shelves even those labeled "pure" is likely blended with syrup, making it difficult to distinguish real honey without lab testing.
This sounds like AI.

skilly1

2,863 posts

220 months

Probably, I took most it from google, but it’s true.

The Gauge

6,675 posts

38 months

I see Rowse as the typical 'go to' honey that Joe Public would choose from the supermarket shelf. We often buy it too, but I've always doubted it being real honey.
Anyone know if this is genuine honey, or the fake blended China cr@p?

normalbloke

8,597 posts

244 months

The Gauge said:
I see Rowse as the typical 'go to' honey that Joe Public would choose from the supermarket shelf. We often buy it too, but I've always doubted it being real honey.
Anyone know if this is genuine honey, or the fake blended China cr@p?
If you ever went to their depot in Oxfordshire, you’d run a country mile.

PhilAsia

7,243 posts

100 months

normalbloke said:
The Gauge said:
I see Rowse as the typical 'go to' honey that Joe Public would choose from the supermarket shelf. We often buy it too, but I've always doubted it being real honey.
Anyone know if this is genuine honey, or the fake blended China cr@p?
If you ever went to their depot in Oxfordshire, you d run a country mile.
That's encouraging. Most couldn't.

vaud

58,302 posts

180 months

Buy local. The taste will likely be (bee) much stronger and it isn’t diluted with other sugars.

If it’s costing £1.80 then it’s isn’t pure bee honey. 🐝