Cheap honey
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anonymous-user

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82 months

Sunday 10th May
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My kids like porridge and they have been having honey on (from Aldi about £1.80). Is this stuff mainly sugar syrup? And I'm guessing not healthy at all.

normalbloke

8,784 posts

247 months

Sunday 10th May
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Probably. Most likely.

Ham_and_Jam

3,604 posts

125 months

Sunday 10th May
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Honey is a legally protected, reserved description. So if it’s described as honey, its honey, unless its a fake product. Generally somewhere like Aldi should have procedures in place to ensure it’s genuine.

What I would say though is that honey, whilst it is a natural product and contains some benefits, its still mainly sugar. So treat it as such.

By the way I love honey.


MediumBuild

1,442 posts

6 months

Sunday 10th May
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My FIL is a beekeeper. Fake honey is endemic.

https://www.theguardian.com/food/2024/nov/09/nine-...

Bill

58,335 posts

283 months

Sunday 10th May
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Ham_and_Jam said:
Honey is a legally protected, reserved description. So if it s described as honey, its honey, unless its a fake product. Generally somewhere like Aldi should have procedures in place to ensure it s genuine.

What I would say though is that honey, whilst it is a natural product and contains some benefits, its still mainly sugar. So treat it as such.

By the way I love honey.
Fakery is rife.

sherman

15,178 posts

243 months

Sunday 10th May
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3.2kg for £18.99 should see you through for a while

https://amzn.eu/d/03OJoNAR

MediumBuild

1,442 posts

6 months

Sunday 10th May
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From my FIL - keeping bees for 30 years and supplies 2 local farm shops where he lives.

If you're buying honey for the health benefits then it will cost more - no way around that. Rowse, for example, refuse to deny that their honey is UF. Most supermarket honey is, to be frank, st. Most is pollen-free (meaning it can't actually be traced and honey without pollen is sugary syrup), and the temps the honey is exposed to kill pretty much all of the nutritional goodness.

Vague labellings such as 'outside of the EU' are also a tell. Another way to tell poor quality honey is that it doesn't crystallise. Mass-market bees are fed high-frucrose syrup to make them produce more, faster. You're just eating that regurgitated with zero pollen, propolis or royal jelly present.

Buy locally from a beekeeper or a farm shop. Just don't expect to pay buttons for it. You'll see the differences in honey over the year along with changes in flavour and what you're eating is high quality.

FoolsErrand

152 posts

32 months

Sunday 10th May
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MediumBuild said:
Vague labellings such as 'outside of the EU' are also a tell.
I don't buy this stuff at all and suspect it barely scrapes over the line for actually being honey.

Bill

58,335 posts

283 months

Sunday 10th May
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MediumBuild said:
Buy locally from a beekeeper or a farm shop. Just don't expect to pay buttons for it. You'll see the differences in honey over the year along with changes in flavour and what you're eating is high quality.
And even then be sceptical. A lot of farmers market type honey sellers are selling crap at premium prices.

chip*

1,787 posts

256 months

Sunday 10th May
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If the budget permit, buy the proper stuff.
I buy my honey direct from the beekeeper based on IOW which was recommended on an old PH thread.

https://www.bunburybees.co.uk/

Even with postage, they are better value than my locally sourced honey which cost £10/jar!

The Gauge

7,201 posts

41 months

Sunday 10th May
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I've spent time scrutinising the labels of jars/bottles of honey at the supermarkets, they all seem to say they are a 'blend' of honeys, whatever that means? I male the assumption that it is all cr@p.

Thankfully one of my neighbours has bee hives and sells it at £4/jar. It's nice thick honey.

I also have a honey shop near me in Sheffield, but haven't got around to going yet, but I intend to.

https://www.medibee.co.uk

LooneyTunes

9,317 posts

186 months

Sunday 10th May
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chip* said:
If the budget permit, buy the proper stuff.
I buy my honey direct from the beekeeper based on IOW which was recommended on an old PH thread.

https://www.bunburybees.co.uk/

Even with postage, they are better value than my locally sourced honey which cost £10/jar!
£10/jar isn’t outrageous when you consider what it actually cost to produce. We have literally £thousands invested in kit, plus the time, cost of jars, someone doing it to cover costs needs to be at/around that sort of price.

Most beekeepers undercharge because folk are so accustomed to the low prices of “honey” in the supermarket.

Mobile Chicane

21,970 posts

240 months

Sunday 10th May
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My local farm shop honey is absolutely legit and tastes wonderful.

£8.20 a jar from https://etherleyfarm.co.uk/

skilly1

2,890 posts

223 months

Sunday 10th May
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Estimates suggest that 60-70% of honey produced or exported from China is adulterated or impure. This "fake" honey is often a blend of rice, beet, or corn syrup rather than being produced solely by bees, with many shipments and blended products failing authenticity tests, especially those sold at low prices in supermarkets.


Key Facts on Chinese Fake Honey:

Adulteration Scale: In 2014, industry reports stated that 60-70% of Chinese honey was adulterated.

Methodology: Much of this honey is made by feeding bees sugar water instead of letting them forage, or by mixing real honey with cheap syrup (rice, beet, corn).

Detection: A 2023 EU study found 46% of imported honey tested was suspicious, with China identified as a primary source.

Transshipment: To bypass restrictions, adulterated Chinese honey is often shipped through other countries to hide its origin.

Supermarket Risk: A significant percentage of honey on supermarket shelves—even those labeled "pure"—is likely blended with syrup, making it difficult to distinguish real honey without lab testing.


RSTurboPaul

13,017 posts

286 months

Sunday 10th May
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skilly1 said:
Estimates suggest that 60-70% of honey produced or exported from China is adulterated or impure. This "fake" honey is often a blend of rice, beet, or corn syrup rather than being produced solely by bees, with many shipments and blended products failing authenticity tests, especially those sold at low prices in supermarkets.


Key Facts on Chinese Fake Honey:

Adulteration Scale: In 2014, industry reports stated that 60-70% of Chinese honey was adulterated.

Methodology: Much of this honey is made by feeding bees sugar water instead of letting them forage, or by mixing real honey with cheap syrup (rice, beet, corn).

Detection: A 2023 EU study found 46% of imported honey tested was suspicious, with China identified as a primary source.

Transshipment: To bypass restrictions, adulterated Chinese honey is often shipped through other countries to hide its origin.

Supermarket Risk: A significant percentage of honey on supermarket shelves even those labeled "pure" is likely blended with syrup, making it difficult to distinguish real honey without lab testing.
This sounds like AI.

skilly1

2,890 posts

223 months

Sunday 10th May
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Probably, I took most it from google, but it’s true.

The Gauge

7,201 posts

41 months

Sunday 10th May
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I see Rowse as the typical 'go to' honey that Joe Public would choose from the supermarket shelf. We often buy it too, but I've always doubted it being real honey.
Anyone know if this is genuine honey, or the fake blended China cr@p?

normalbloke

8,784 posts

247 months

Sunday 10th May
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The Gauge said:
I see Rowse as the typical 'go to' honey that Joe Public would choose from the supermarket shelf. We often buy it too, but I've always doubted it being real honey.
Anyone know if this is genuine honey, or the fake blended China cr@p?
If you ever went to their depot in Oxfordshire, you’d run a country mile.

PhilAsia

7,544 posts

103 months

Sunday 10th May
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normalbloke said:
The Gauge said:
I see Rowse as the typical 'go to' honey that Joe Public would choose from the supermarket shelf. We often buy it too, but I've always doubted it being real honey.
Anyone know if this is genuine honey, or the fake blended China cr@p?
If you ever went to their depot in Oxfordshire, you d run a country mile.
That's encouraging. Most couldn't.

vaud

58,954 posts

183 months

Sunday 10th May
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Buy local. The taste will likely be (bee) much stronger and it isn’t diluted with other sugars.

If it’s costing £1.80 then it’s isn’t pure bee honey. 🐝