Who produces the best beef?

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deadslow

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8,475 posts

236 months

Friday 7th December 2007
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I had always assumed that good quality fresh British beef is amongst the best in the world, but recently two employees have advised they would rather be (and actually are) vegetarian than eat our beef. One from Brazil, other from Poland.

Are we kidding ourselves?

Tycho

11,941 posts

286 months

Friday 7th December 2007
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I had the best steak when I was in Botswana. Apparently Kobe beef is meant to be excellent although I will need to save up for some.

Sheets Tabuer

20,154 posts

228 months

Friday 7th December 2007
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No we're not, brazil has been cleared for mcdonalds so most beef over there is fresh off the bones and poland is not world famous for beef.

I'm an ex veggie, spent 32/33 years without eating meat so I find the hung or matured for x days too strong for me, Europe seems to have a thing for Argentinian beef which is a lot like aberdeen angus, that might be what he meant.

I suppose it's like new zealand going on about how their lamb is fed on grass, so is everyone else's.

Romanymagic

3,298 posts

232 months

Friday 7th December 2007
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Best steak ever consumed by moi was in the States, Naples to be exact (Florida Naples off the Mexican Gulf Coast, not the dodgy place in Italy)! This steak accompanied only by mushrooms and saute potatoes was sublime and I like to think the steer in question went to the great field in the sky with the post knowledge that it was most appreciated! smile

r5gttgaz

7,897 posts

233 months

Friday 7th December 2007
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Argentinian.

Iirc we have to slaughter at 18 months, the best steak I had was slaughtered at 36 months according to the chef.

Swilly

9,699 posts

287 months

Friday 7th December 2007
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A good cut of properly reared and hung british beef may well be amongst the best, take Welsh black beef for instance.........

unfortunately most what you get in the supermarket is flavour-free shite..... mass reared, not hung nearly enough.... shouldnt be bright red

grumbledoak

32,084 posts

246 months

Friday 7th December 2007
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It sounds like your employees are still remembering the BSE crisis, more than thinking of the quality.

Argentinian is considered the best, Scottish Aberdeen Angus is very good, but I normally get mine from The Well Hung Meat Company* in Devon. Supermarket beef isn't up to much.

* Take care googling from work!

deadslow

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236 months

Friday 7th December 2007
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grumbledoak said:
It sounds like your employees are still remembering the BSE crisis, more than thinking of the quality.

Argentinian is considered the best, Scottish Aberdeen Angus is very good, but I normally get mine from The Well Hung Meat Company* in Devon. Supermarket beef isn't up to much.

* Take care googling from work!
No, not at all biased by BSE. Just claim our beef is 'chuck'. Probably buying from our supermarkets, but probably supermarket consumers in their home countries.

glazbagun

14,800 posts

210 months

Friday 7th December 2007
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deadslow said:
I had always assumed that good quality fresh British beef is amongst the best in the world, but recently two employees have advised they would rather be (and actually are) vegetarian than eat our beef. One from Brazil, other from Poland.

Are we kidding ourselves?
The Polish guy was talking out of his ass- I've been to Gdansk & they cant cook steak over their to save their lives. I just dont think they eat it - Pork seems much bigger over their. With gurkhin. Bleagh, I was so glad when I got back home to the UK. Burger King tasted like heaven after that.

Having said that, I had great Beef in Cyprus. Really, really great beef. And Turkey is (supposedly) great for its meats, too. Not that I'd know. I imagine our reputation for Mad Cow probably doesnt go down to well over the world.

Neil_Sc

2,256 posts

220 months

Friday 7th December 2007
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British beef is wonderful from certain butchers, but I should imagine alot of the homogonised supermarket crap sold as british beef is way below standard.

Rob-C

1,488 posts

262 months

Saturday 8th December 2007
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Neil_Sc said:
British beef is wonderful from certain butchers, but I should imagine alot of the homogonised supermarket crap sold as british beef is way below standard.
Supermarkets seem to have a policy of only stocking the most tasteless cuts of beef.

If you want a joint for roasting, they offer a choice of topside or, well, topside. All cut into equal 1.25kg cubes. It makes me wonder what the hell happens to the rest of the cow.




Ordinary Bloke

4,559 posts

211 months

Saturday 8th December 2007
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I love to eat steak in restaurants in Scotland, or anywhere else in the world.

Our local butcher has fantastic beef, he only sells British meat. So at home, we eat a lot of very good steak. But British supermarket beef is cr@p... if you don't believe me, go to a butchers and buy a some steak. It doesn't cost more, but it's real beef.

The sad thing is that British people don't understand the difference, and English Restaurants usually serve substandard beef. So I never eat steak in restuarants in England.


Wadeski

8,590 posts

226 months

Saturday 8th December 2007
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depeneds on the cut....some places do great roasting cuts, some do great steaks, usually the same does not apply across all.

personally, I think Kobe and Ishigaki beef are a complete waste of time, sure they are meltingly smooth, but they dont deliver on taste and mouthfeel.


Don

28,378 posts

297 months

Saturday 8th December 2007
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Shoppers are to blame for tasteless meat IMO. They actively prefer it and don't buy anything else. Which is why supermarkets stock it.

Want something tasty? Go to your local farm shop. Or the local Butcher. These people rely on the quality of what they sell to stay in business - not the convenience of getting to them or their nearness to the house - and they also know their market: "Enthusiast" purchasers. So you get stuff that's more interesting. More expensive too, sadly, but there you go.

At least when you eat it you can believe the animal had a decent life and it tastes so much better.

Don

28,378 posts

297 months

Saturday 8th December 2007
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Ordinary Bloke said:
The sad thing is that British people don't understand the difference, and English Restaurants usually serve substandard beef. So I never eat steak in restuarants in England.
Brits: I reckon if they tasted them side by side they'd know the difference. Some might prefer the tasty stuff but there's a hell of a lot of people who have really mild tastes and actively prefer the tasteless crap!

Steak restaurants in England vary a great deal. Not all are crap, to be fair. But I'd agree many are and so why take the risk? Personally I DO eat steak in restaurants but I choose the local place that does them well.

Mattt

16,664 posts

231 months

Saturday 8th December 2007
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We only get beef from the butcher, just go in with an open mind and ask him what's good. The more you go, the better service you get - he puts a sign out at Xmas: 'A butcher is for life, not just for Christmas'.

A friend has just started his own beef herd on his farm, so we get some stuff from there too - they do great 100% beef burgers, great for the BBQ.

staceyb

7,107 posts

237 months

Saturday 8th December 2007
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We get our beef and pretty much all our meat from the local butcher who gets his meat from farms within a 10 mile radius. When you go in you tell him what you are cooking and he will give you a piece of meat that would be suitable and its cut straight from the animal. He also makes his own sausages and bacon and cooked meats. And the best thing is its very very reasonable, we bought 10 proper Lincolnshire sausages for 3 quid.

This is what meat is supposed to be like not the full of water tasteless crap from supermarkets.

deadslow

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236 months

Saturday 8th December 2007
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staceyb said:
We get our beef and pretty much all our meat from the local butcher who gets his meat from farms within a 10 mile radius. When you go in you tell him what you are cooking and he will give you a piece of meat that would be suitable and its cut straight from the animal. He also makes his own sausages and bacon and cooked meats. And the best thing is its very very reasonable, we bought 10 proper Lincolnshire sausages for 3 quid.

This is what meat is supposed to be like not the full of water tasteless crap from supermarkets.
I'm the same, my local butcher makes his own award winning (Smithfield) sausages.

Was just surprised when two people independently condemned our local beef, saying it had no flavour.

staceyb

7,107 posts

237 months

Saturday 8th December 2007
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deadslow said:
staceyb said:
We get our beef and pretty much all our meat from the local butcher who gets his meat from farms within a 10 mile radius. When you go in you tell him what you are cooking and he will give you a piece of meat that would be suitable and its cut straight from the animal. He also makes his own sausages and bacon and cooked meats. And the best thing is its very very reasonable, we bought 10 proper Lincolnshire sausages for 3 quid.

This is what meat is supposed to be like not the full of water tasteless crap from supermarkets.
I'm the same, my local butcher makes his own award winning (Smithfield) sausages.

Was just surprised when two people independently condemned our local beef, saying it had no flavour.
Have they had butcher need or just supermarket crap?

i want an aero

642 posts

219 months

Saturday 8th December 2007
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every time i've been to turkey the steaks have been ace. giant size and cooked to perfection