Steak & Chips..
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rfn

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4,601 posts

230 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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I know this is a pretty basic meal, I'm cooking Steak, Chips and peas for myself and a friend tomorrow night. My cooking usually only extends as far as Pasta, Rice etc, and so was looking to the knowledge of the food bods here on PH for some pointers!

What's the best way to cook the Steak, from reading around it seems a very hot pan and approx 5 minutes either side for a medium/well done steak? Is a rib-eye steak ok for flavour etc as trying to do it on a budget?

Chips: I was going to go with chopping up some potatoes and making some wedges as when my Mum used to cook these they were gorgeous - never attempted them myself: any tips with these?

Thanks for any help that you an give smile.

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

249 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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Steak at room temperature, very hot pan with thick base, 2 mins a side for rare, 3-4 for medium, 5+ for ruined.

If you want rare steak, buy fillet. But that's a bit boring and tasteless. Rib-eye is better, but needs doing medium rare to allow the fat (the flavour delivery mechanism) to melt and become delicious.

And the extractor running at full bore if you don't want a house full of smoke.

Chips: Chop spuds up, rinse well, par-boil then pat dry and deep-fry until crispy on the outside and fluffy on the inside.


Edited by CommanderJameson on Tuesday 9th December 08:02

Melman Giraffe

6,794 posts

241 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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Just to add a few points.

Always oil and season the meat not the pan.

And for the best chips:- In my opinion no need to boil them first.

1) Rinse the chips in cold water after cutting at pat dry.
2) Deep fry them at approx 140c for 10mins them remove and let them cool down.
3) Then deep fry them again at 180c for approx 5min so that you get a crisp outside and a fluffy middle.

Enjoy

Glassman

24,570 posts

238 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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Melman Giraffe said:
1) Rinse the chips in cold water after cutting at pat dry.
2) Deep fry them at approx 140c for 10mins them remove and let them cool down.
3) Then deep fry them again at 180c for approx 5min so that you get a crisp outside and a fluffy middle.
You're Nigel Slater AICMFP

Melman Giraffe

6,794 posts

241 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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Glassman said:
Melman Giraffe said:
1) Rinse the chips in cold water after cutting at pat dry.
2) Deep fry them at approx 140c for 10mins them remove and let them cool down.
3) Then deep fry them again at 180c for approx 5min so that you get a crisp outside and a fluffy middle.
AICMFP
?

Don

28,378 posts

307 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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Everything you need to know about the steak has been said.

If you want an alternative to chips - make wedges in the oven. Just take a spud, no need to peel.

Cut in half lengthways. Cut into quarters lengthways. Cut into eighths lengthways. Pop into a bowl. Pour on a tablespoon of oil. Sprinkle with a little paprika and then mix well. Put them on a baking tray and shove in the oven at about 200C for half an hour to three quarters of an hour - check that they are done with a fork. Bingo. "Chips" with no need for deep frying.

A good alternative if you don't have a fryer or if you want something a little different.

Glassman

24,570 posts

238 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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Melman Giraffe said:
Glassman said:
Melman Giraffe said:
1) Rinse the chips in cold water after cutting at pat dry.
2) Deep fry them at approx 140c for 10mins them remove and let them cool down.
3) Then deep fry them again at 180c for approx 5min so that you get a crisp outside and a fluffy middle.
AICMFP
?
HTH

Don

28,378 posts

307 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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Melman Giraffe said:
AICMFP?
PH speak. "And I Claim My Five Pounds".

mechsympathy

57,363 posts

278 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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Don said:
Chip stuff
I parboil them for a few minutes first which helps them crisp up as the edges roughen in the colander, they then only take 20-25 minutes in a very hot oven.

TIGA84

5,531 posts

254 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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mechsympathy said:
Don said:
Chip stuff
I parboil them for a few minutes first which helps them crisp up as the edges roughen in the colander, they then only take 20-25 minutes in a very hot oven.
I'm with the Commander on the steak front, Rib-eye as a given, fillet bores me now. It never actually tastes of anything? I've found you can also take it a bit further in the cooking process as well, I'm into almost medium at the moment, but only if the steaks are cut a little thicker, I think they can take on even more flavour when you get the fat really melting. Also, I've found a good slab of butter and some basting a minute or so before resting really makes a difference. I rested a Rib-eye for a full 20 minutes not so long ago, one of the best steaks I've ever had, could have eaten it with a spoon.

As for the chips/potato wedges, I have my own special theory, now pay attention 007, this might take a little longer, but well worth it.

Jacket potato, 1-1/2 hours depending on size, get them super crispy as you would if it was going to be eaten as is, cut into wedges, cool, then into hot fat until crispy.

Serve steak with a flat grilled portabellow mushroom, a griddled plum tomato and a pot of mustard.

Don

28,378 posts

307 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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TIGA84 said:
Jacket potato, 1-1/2 hours depending on size, get them super crispy as you would if it was going to be eaten as is, cut into wedges, cool, then into hot fat until crispy.
Oooohhhhh. Now THAT I will try! What a dirty, naughty, sinful pleasure that must be. Yum.

SHutchinson

2,285 posts

207 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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Put plenty of salt on the steak before you cook it then a little more on after you've cooked it.

It might be demonised but it's work as a flavour enhancer is cracking!

wink

TIGA84

5,531 posts

254 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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Don said:
TIGA84 said:
Jacket potato, 1-1/2 hours depending on size, get them super crispy as you would if it was going to be eaten as is, cut into wedges, cool, then into hot fat until crispy.
Oooohhhhh. Now THAT I will try! What a dirty, naughty, sinful pleasure that must be. Yum.
You'll never go back, trust me. Shamelessy stolen from Mrs Tiga when she used to work in a pub. After lunch service, any spuds left over in the oven were wedged up, slung in the fryer, then onto the bar for the regulars with a jar of Mayo.

I think they might still even do it.

jodypress

2,065 posts

297 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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TIGA84 said:
mechsympathy said:
Don said:
Chip stuff
I parboil them for a few minutes first which helps them crisp up as the edges roughen in the colander, they then only take 20-25 minutes in a very hot oven.
I'm with the Commander on the steak front, Rib-eye as a given, fillet bores me now. It never actually tastes of anything? I've found you can also take it a bit further in the cooking process as well, I'm into almost medium at the moment, but only if the steaks are cut a little thicker, I think they can take on even more flavour when you get the fat really melting. Also, I've found a good slab of butter and some basting a minute or so before resting really makes a difference. I rested a Rib-eye for a full 20 minutes not so long ago, one of the best steaks I've ever had, could have eaten it with a spoon.

As for the chips/potato wedges, I have my own special theory, now pay attention 007, this might take a little longer, but well worth it.

Jacket potato, 1-1/2 hours depending on size, get them super crispy as you would if it was going to be eaten as is, cut into wedges, cool, then into hot fat until crispy.

Serve steak with a flat grilled portabellow mushroom, a griddled plum tomato and a pot of mustard.
I only rest my rib-eyes for 5 mins, how did it stay warm after 20mins or did you heat it up? Also how the heck did you have enough willpower to wait that long.... smile

Romanymagic

3,298 posts

242 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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rfn said:
I know this is a pretty basic meal, I'm cooking Steak, Chips and peas for myself and a friend tomorrow night. My cooking usually only extends as far as Pasta, Rice etc, and so was looking to the knowledge of the food bods here on PH for some pointers!

What's the best way to cook the Steak, from reading around it seems a very hot pan and approx 5 minutes either side for a medium/well done steak? Is a rib-eye steak ok for flavour etc as trying to do it on a budget?

Chips: I was going to go with chopping up some potatoes and making some wedges as when my Mum used to cook these they were gorgeous - never attempted them myself: any tips with these?

Thanks for any help that you an give smile.
Rib Eye is actually quite a good cut of meat. That fat layer is great for flavour as it melts. Would also suggest a simple sauce as follows:

3 tbs of brandy
150ml double cream
4 shallots finely chopped
large knob of butter

Put butter in pan, turn heat on so butter starts to melt. Add the finely chopped shallots and gently fry in the melted butter for a couple of minutes.

Add the brandy and tip the pan to set the brandy alight (flambe).

When flames go out add the double cream and rapidly boil until the sauce reduces by half and then pour over your steak.



TIGA84

5,531 posts

254 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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jodypress said:
TIGA84 said:
mechsympathy said:
Don said:
Chip stuff
I parboil them for a few minutes first which helps them crisp up as the edges roughen in the colander, they then only take 20-25 minutes in a very hot oven.
I'm with the Commander on the steak front, Rib-eye as a given, fillet bores me now. It never actually tastes of anything? I've found you can also take it a bit further in the cooking process as well, I'm into almost medium at the moment, but only if the steaks are cut a little thicker, I think they can take on even more flavour when you get the fat really melting. Also, I've found a good slab of butter and some basting a minute or so before resting really makes a difference. I rested a Rib-eye for a full 20 minutes not so long ago, one of the best steaks I've ever had, could have eaten it with a spoon.

As for the chips/potato wedges, I have my own special theory, now pay attention 007, this might take a little longer, but well worth it.

Jacket potato, 1-1/2 hours depending on size, get them super crispy as you would if it was going to be eaten as is, cut into wedges, cool, then into hot fat until crispy.

Serve steak with a flat grilled portabellow mushroom, a griddled plum tomato and a pot of mustard.
I only rest my rib-eyes for 5 mins, how did it stay warm after 20mins or did you heat it up? Also how the heck did you have enough willpower to wait that long.... smile
Warming oven covered in foil, chips werent done................

DJFish

6,009 posts

286 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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Trim a bit of the fat from the steak, then when your pan is smoking hot, lob the fat in and swizzle it around before you put your steak in.

madala

5,063 posts

221 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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rfn said:
I know this is a pretty basic meal,
....see....that's where you are wrong.....a very hard meal to get right.....I have it off to a tee now.....and I ain't sharing my secret just now.....unless there is a lot of "pretty please"......smile

rfn

Original Poster:

4,601 posts

230 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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madala said:
rfn said:
I know this is a pretty basic meal,
....see....that's where you are wrong.....a very hard meal to get right.....I have it off to a tee now.....and I ain't sharing my secret just now.....unless there is a lot of "pretty please"......smile
Pretty Please? Just been to the butcher and he's closed for the day due to a family bereavement, might have to go to Waitrose instead!

TIGA84

5,531 posts

254 months

Wednesday 10th December 2008
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rfn said:
madala said:
rfn said:
I know this is a pretty basic meal,
....see....that's where you are wrong.....a very hard meal to get right.....I have it off to a tee now.....and I ain't sharing my secret just now.....unless there is a lot of "pretty please"......smile
Pretty Please? Just been to the butcher and he's closed for the day due to a family bereavement, might have to go to Waitrose instead!
Get it from the butchers section if possible, they are very good generally, no local butcher but they still know their stuff.

Key points are:

For the Steak

Dont buy fillet unless you really know what you are doing, get something with a decent marbling of fat.
Room temperature meat.
Good seasoning at raw stage with good seasoning (Maldon salt, decent peppercorns, freshly ground). Dont be scared on it, be generous.
Scorching hot pan, should be too hot to hold your hand over for anymore than a few seconds.
Dont shift it around too much when cooking it, creates steam rather than heat.
A knob of butter after turning to baste the cooked side will add moisture and flavour.
Rest it well (5 mins shold be ok, longer if you can keep it warm.)


For the chips

See any of the above comments, they all work well, just use a decent potato, maris piper or desiree I like.
Cook them in beef dripping if you can!


They are simple ingredients and you arent doing a lot to them. Trust me, it is one of the hardest things to master, which is why you get so many badly cooked ones in restaurants!!

Garnish how you want, but not too much, let the meat and chips speak for themselves.

Buy John Torodes beef book by the way, a truly awesome bit of kitchen equipment.

Let us know how you get on!

James