How do I make an espresso?
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czzzzpzzzz

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1,067 posts

215 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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I have just got a stove-top espresso maker but not sure how to make it so before I go out to the supermarket and buy some espresso coffee could someone explain how I make a "good" espresso?

Cheers. smile

Ayahuasca

27,560 posts

303 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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Buy some medium ground coffee.

Unscrew the machine. You should have the bottom bit, the coffee holder and the top bit.

Fill up the bottom bit with water until just below the safety valve.

Put the coffee holder into the bottom bit.

Fill up the coffee holder to the top with the ground coffee, make sure it is level but do NOT tamp it down.

Screw on the top bit.

Place on stove.

After a couple of minutes the coffee bubbles up through the spout.

Do not let it boil.





czzzzpzzzz

Original Poster:

1,067 posts

215 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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Ayahuasca said:
Buy some medium ground coffee.

Unscrew the machine. You should have the bottom bit, the coffee holder and the top bit.

Fill up the bottom bit with water until just below the safety valve.

Put the coffee holder into the bottom bit.

Fill up the coffee holder to the top with the ground coffee, make sure it is level but do NOT tamp it down.

Screw on the top bit.

Place on stove.

After a couple of minutes the coffee bubbles up through the spout.

Do not let it boil.
Thanks that's really useful. What sort of heat do you put it on? and also just to re-cap water in the bottom, coffee at the top?

Ayahuasca

27,560 posts

303 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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czzzzpzzzz said:
Ayahuasca said:
Buy some medium ground coffee.

Unscrew the machine. You should have the bottom bit, the coffee holder and the top bit.

Fill up the bottom bit with water until just below the safety valve.

Put the coffee holder into the bottom bit.

Fill up the coffee holder to the top with the ground coffee, make sure it is level but do NOT tamp it down.

Screw on the top bit.

Place on stove.

After a couple of minutes the coffee bubbles up through the spout.

Do not let it boil.
Thanks that's really useful. What sort of heat do you put it on? and also just to re-cap water in the bottom, coffee at the top?
Yep, water in the bottom.

Dry coffee in the little tray that sits above the water (this should NOT get wet).

The coffee liquid ends up in the bit at the top.

I would say a small burner on high heat - don't want to melt the handle!

It works because as the air in the top of the water bit expands, it pushes the water UP through the coffee and into the receptacle at the top.

I use mine every day!

czzzzpzzzz

Original Poster:

1,067 posts

215 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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Ayahuasca said:
czzzzpzzzz said:
Ayahuasca said:
Buy some medium ground coffee.

Unscrew the machine. You should have the bottom bit, the coffee holder and the top bit.

Fill up the bottom bit with water until just below the safety valve.

Put the coffee holder into the bottom bit.

Fill up the coffee holder to the top with the ground coffee, make sure it is level but do NOT tamp it down.

Screw on the top bit.

Place on stove.

After a couple of minutes the coffee bubbles up through the spout.

Do not let it boil.
Thanks that's really useful. What sort of heat do you put it on? and also just to re-cap water in the bottom, coffee at the top?
Yep, water in the bottom.

Dry coffee in the little tray that sits above the water (this should NOT get wet).

The coffee liquid ends up in the bit at the top.

I would say a small burner on high heat - don't want to melt the handle!

It works because as the air in the top of the water bit expands, it pushes the water UP through the coffee and into the receptacle at the top.

I use mine every day!
Cheers I'll have go!

czzzzpzzzz

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Wednesday 20th May 2009
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DDg said:
Ever had a Bialetti explode? It's amazing how far one little cups worth of espresso can go - ceiling, every wall in the kitchen etc. Really impressive, but I'm glad I wasn't in the kitchen at the time.
I imagine that is because the safety valve was blocked?

czzzzpzzzz

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Wednesday 20th May 2009
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I tried it with Levazza ground coffee but the consistency isn't right it's too watery and there is no 'crema' frown Any other tips?

Ayahuasca

27,560 posts

303 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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czzzzpzzzz said:
I tried it with Levazza ground coffee but the consistency isn't right it's too watery and there is no 'crema' frown Any other tips?
Ah, apparently the stovetop jobbies don't operate at high enough pressure to get decent 'crema' you need one of the giant mechanical high-pressure things.


Colonial

13,553 posts

229 months

Thursday 21st May 2009
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do it on a low/medium heat. Will take longer but get a much nicer flavour out of it

It's how I drink coffee at home now. Mainly because I only drink espresso/short blacks.

Colonial

13,553 posts

229 months

Thursday 21st May 2009
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do it on a low/medium heat. Will take longer but get a much nicer flavour out of it

It's how I drink coffee at home now. Mainly because I only drink espresso/short blacks.

czzzzpzzzz

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Thursday 21st May 2009
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Yeah but mine just tastes like filter coffee, as in it's watery, do I need to add less water and more coffee? I do fill the coffee right up and the water up to a mm below the s.valve but it just tastes like my filter coffee machine. Isn't it meant to be more "treacle" like?

Coq au Vin

3,239 posts

234 months

Thursday 21st May 2009
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A finer grind should help.

Ayahuasca

27,560 posts

303 months

Thursday 21st May 2009
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Sounds like the water is not getting through all the coffee evenly, as noted a finer grind and maybe a SLIGHT tamping of the coffee would help, just to make sure there are no 'easy' passages that the water could take.

navier_stokes

948 posts

223 months

Thursday 21st May 2009
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Sorry for being anal, but coffee from a stovetop is not proper espresso hehe

hondafanatic

4,969 posts

225 months

Thursday 21st May 2009
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navier_stokes said:
Sorry for being anal, but coffee from a stovetop is not proper espresso hehe
This is what I was thinking. My stove top machine is used to make black coffee only, I don't think you'd ever get it to give you a one shot espresso, hence why I have a different machine for those...

Although, if anyone has got a way to create a proper espresso from a stove jobbie, then i'm all ears...


CraigW

12,248 posts

306 months

Thursday 21st May 2009
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DDg said:
Ever had a Bialetti explode? It's amazing how far one little cups worth of espresso can go - ceiling, every wall in the kitchen etc. Really impressive, but I'm glad I wasn't in the kitchen at the time.
yup, happened to me, was finding residue a year later

Ayahuasca

27,560 posts

303 months

Thursday 21st May 2009
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hondafanatic said:
navier_stokes said:
Sorry for being anal, but coffee from a stovetop is not proper espresso hehe
This is what I was thinking. My stove top machine is used to make black coffee only, I don't think you'd ever get it to give you a one shot espresso, hence why I have a different machine for those...

Although, if anyone has got a way to create a proper espresso from a stove jobbie, then i'm all ears...
It may not be 'proper' but it is 99% of the way there.

Have used a few stovetops they do produce varying quality; the smallest one is the best and you do get the 'one shot' although in a slightly bigger quantity than an espresso. It is so strong that to make regular strong black coffee I water it down with hot water.


cramorra

1,687 posts

259 months

Friday 21st August 2009
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next best thing to proper espresso

CraigW

12,248 posts

306 months

Friday 21st August 2009
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what is?

neil_bolton

17,113 posts

288 months

Friday 21st August 2009
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Ayahuasca said:
hondafanatic said:
navier_stokes said:
Sorry for being anal, but coffee from a stovetop is not proper espresso hehe
This is what I was thinking. My stove top machine is used to make black coffee only, I don't think you'd ever get it to give you a one shot espresso, hence why I have a different machine for those...

Although, if anyone has got a way to create a proper espresso from a stove jobbie, then i'm all ears...
It may not be 'proper' but it is 99% of the way there.

Have used a few stovetops they do produce varying quality; the smallest one is the best and you do get the 'one shot' although in a slightly bigger quantity than an espresso. It is so strong that to make regular strong black coffee I water it down with hot water.
It's not really is it, if you're truthful.

All you're making is really really strong coffee in a smaller cup.

An espresso machine uses higher pressures and to a degree more consistently maintained higher temperatures.

Additionally, the ability to effectively use the grains packed together is what helps create the crema - no crema = no espresso.

Anything else is just a short black coffee.