Pork Pie gets protected status?
Pork Pie gets protected status?
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Silver993tt

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Friday 7th August 2009
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I didn't really believe this was true when I first read the story but it appears on other websites aswell:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/leicest...

Why would anyone (apart from money making greedy pigs - sorry for the pun) want to ask to have such an unhealthy concoction publicised to this level?

Also, so what about Melton Mowbray? If someone else in another part of the UK or another country makes a better product than these people, what does this actually achieve for them? Sounds like legalised protectionism to me.

Anyway, this is a complete con because 150 million 'Melton Mowbray' pies were actually made in Trowbridge in Wiltshire, not actually in Melton Mowbray in Leicestershire:

http://www.meatprocess.com/Products/Pie-factory-mo...

A very good friend of mine was brought up in Trowbridge and she regularly commented on the disgusting smell that eminated fron the pork pie factory there. Why anyone would consider eating this rubbish is quite beyond me. Why the EU would even give these people 1 second of their time is even more unbelievable.

hurlhurlhurl

next it will be 'protection status' for Dominos pizza hehe


Edited by Silver993tt on Friday 7th August 18:01

f-fuxake

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Friday 7th August 2009
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Have you been planning this reposte for 10 months? That's a hell of a lot of seething!
NomNomNom
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grumbledoak

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Friday 7th August 2009
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While I wouldn't want to eat one, well done to them on getting the geographical protection status. Every region in Europe is trying for these; no point being at a disadvantage.

Silver993tt

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Friday 7th August 2009
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grumbledoak said:
While I wouldn't want to eat one, well done to them on getting the geographical protection status. Every region in Europe is trying for these; no point being at a disadvantage.
yes but the Melton Mowbray offering is full of crap and to be honest, I think it's embarassing for the UK.

williamp

20,124 posts

297 months

Friday 7th August 2009
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Melton are great pies.

Its a very particular method of cooking- cured pork, and free standing when they cook. This means that others cannot call themselves "Melton Mowbray" pork pies if they dont come within a specific radius- like Champagne

OnTheOverrun

3,965 posts

201 months

Friday 7th August 2009
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Silver993tt said:
Also, so what about Melton Mowbray? If someone else in another part of the UK or another country makes a better product than these people, what does this actually achieve for them? Sounds like legalised protectionism to me.

A very good friend of mine was brought up in Trowbridge and she regularly commented on the disgusting smell that eminated fron the pork pie factory there. Why anyone would consider eating this rubbish is quite beyond me. Why the EU would even give these people 1 second of their time is even more unbelievable.
What an amazingly ill-informed rant!

Sounds like legalised protectionism to you does it? Like Parma Ham or Andouilette de Troyes or Serrano ham? All sorts of regional foods are location protected these days.

You've evidently only ever eaten cheap factory pork pies, not proper handmade butchers ones with hand raised pastry cases and a filling made only from stilton whey-fed lean pork and black pepper. Saying you think pork pies are disgusting because you've only ever eaten sh!te ones is like saying a Henriot Cuvee des Enchanteleurs Brut 1989 champagne is crap because you've only tried Happy Shopper champagne style lambrini.

Silver993tt

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Friday 7th August 2009
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OnTheOverrun said:
Silver993tt said:
Also, so what about Melton Mowbray? If someone else in another part of the UK or another country makes a better product than these people, what does this actually achieve for them? Sounds like legalised protectionism to me.

A very good friend of mine was brought up in Trowbridge and she regularly commented on the disgusting smell that eminated fron the pork pie factory there. Why anyone would consider eating this rubbish is quite beyond me. Why the EU would even give these people 1 second of their time is even more unbelievable.
What an amazingly ill-informed rant!

Sounds like legalised protectionism to you does it? Like Parma Ham or Andouilette de Troyes or Serrano ham? All sorts of regional foods are location protected these days.

You've evidently only ever eaten cheap factory pork pies, not proper handmade butchers ones with hand raised pastry cases and a filling made only from stilton whey-fed lean pork and black pepper. Saying you think pork pies are disgusting because you've only ever eaten sh!te ones is like saying a Henriot Cuvee des Enchanteleurs Brut 1989 champagne is crap because you've only tried Happy Shopper champagne style lambrini.
so exactly how do you you know what I've eaten? I tried a pork pie many years ago, Melton Mowbray from an independent Deli. It was disgusting. Fair enough, taste is subjective. I then researched what was in the pie which put me right off. Unfortunately, most people will say "but it tastes good, so what's the problem?". Most can't be arsed to research what's actually in the food they eat. It can be as organic as you like but it doesn't mean it's doing your body any good whatsoever. Still that's a personal choice but when people try and 'protect' a product and use that 'protection' as a marketing tool when it contains widely accepted unhealthy ingredients then that is totally wrong.

Hardly surprising the UK is the most obese nation in Europe.

Edited by Silver993tt on Friday 7th August 19:19

OnTheOverrun

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Friday 7th August 2009
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Silver993tt said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Silver993tt said:
Also, so what about Melton Mowbray? If someone else in another part of the UK or another country makes a better product than these people, what does this actually achieve for them? Sounds like legalised protectionism to me.

A very good friend of mine was brought up in Trowbridge and she regularly commented on the disgusting smell that eminated fron the pork pie factory there. Why anyone would consider eating this rubbish is quite beyond me. Why the EU would even give these people 1 second of their time is even more unbelievable.
What an amazingly ill-informed rant!

Sounds like legalised protectionism to you does it? Like Parma Ham or Andouilette de Troyes or Serrano ham? All sorts of regional foods are location protected these days.

You've evidently only ever eaten cheap factory pork pies, not proper handmade butchers ones with hand raised pastry cases and a filling made only from stilton whey-fed lean pork and black pepper. Saying you think pork pies are disgusting because you've only ever eaten sh!te ones is like saying a Henriot Cuvee des Enchanteleurs Brut 1989 champagne is crap because you've only tried Happy Shopper champagne style lambrini.
so exactly how do you you know what I've eaten? I tried a pork pie many years ago, Melton Mowbray from an independent Deli. It was disgusting. Fair enough, taste is subjective. I then researched what was in the pie which put me right off. Unfortunately, most people will say "but it tastes good, so what's the problem?". Most can't be arsed to research what's actually in the food they eat. It can be as organic as you like but it doesn't mean it's doing your body any good whatsoever. Still that's a personal choice but when people try and 'protect' a product and use that 'protection' as a marketing tool when it contains widely accepted unhealthy ingredients then that is totally wrong.

Hardly surprising the UK is the most obese nation in Europe.

Edited by Silver993tt on Friday 7th August 19:19
So you found out that a Melton Mowbray pork pie can only contain pork, flour, water and black pepper and it put you right off did it? rolleyes

As for your bizarre drivel about using protection as a marketing tool to protect unhealthy food for marketing purposes, well just about every decent cheese variety is location protected and just about every cheese is far less healthy than a pork pie containing a vastly higher proportion of saturated fat. By your odd perspective we should ban all those location protected Spanish cheeses that have a far higher fat content than a pork pie then like Sierra de Carzola, Manchego La Mancha or the spectacularly unhealthy Torta la Serena?

Oddly enough you might find America is fatter than the UK and don't eat any pork pies at all. Great logic there genius.

Silver993tt

Original Poster:

9,064 posts

263 months

Friday 7th August 2009
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OnTheOverrun said:
Silver993tt said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Silver993tt said:
Also, so what about Melton Mowbray? If someone else in another part of the UK or another country makes a better product than these people, what does this actually achieve for them? Sounds like legalised protectionism to me.

A very good friend of mine was brought up in Trowbridge and she regularly commented on the disgusting smell that eminated fron the pork pie factory there. Why anyone would consider eating this rubbish is quite beyond me. Why the EU would even give these people 1 second of their time is even more unbelievable.
What an amazingly ill-informed rant!

Sounds like legalised protectionism to you does it? Like Parma Ham or Andouilette de Troyes or Serrano ham? All sorts of regional foods are location protected these days.

You've evidently only ever eaten cheap factory pork pies, not proper handmade butchers ones with hand raised pastry cases and a filling made only from stilton whey-fed lean pork and black pepper. Saying you think pork pies are disgusting because you've only ever eaten sh!te ones is like saying a Henriot Cuvee des Enchanteleurs Brut 1989 champagne is crap because you've only tried Happy Shopper champagne style lambrini.
so exactly how do you you know what I've eaten? I tried a pork pie many years ago, Melton Mowbray from an independent Deli. It was disgusting. Fair enough, taste is subjective. I then researched what was in the pie which put me right off. Unfortunately, most people will say "but it tastes good, so what's the problem?". Most can't be arsed to research what's actually in the food they eat. It can be as organic as you like but it doesn't mean it's doing your body any good whatsoever. Still that's a personal choice but when people try and 'protect' a product and use that 'protection' as a marketing tool when it contains widely accepted unhealthy ingredients then that is totally wrong.

Hardly surprising the UK is the most obese nation in Europe.

Edited by Silver993tt on Friday 7th August 19:19
So you found out that a Melton Mowbray pork pie can only contain pork, flour, water and black pepper and it put you right off did it? rolleyes

As for your bizarre drivel about using protection as a marketing tool to protect unhealthy food for marketing purposes, well just about every decent cheese variety is location protected and just about every cheese is far less healthy than a pork pie containing a vastly higher proportion of saturated fat. By your odd perspective we should ban all those location protected Spanish cheeses that have a far higher fat content than a pork pie then like Sierra de Carzola, Manchego La Mancha or the spectacularly unhealthy Torta la Serena?

Oddly enough you might find America is fatter than the UK and don't eat any pork pies at all. Great logic there genius.
looks like i've hit a sore point on your diet smile

OnTheOverrun

3,965 posts

201 months

Friday 7th August 2009
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Silver993tt said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Silver993tt said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Silver993tt said:
Also, so what about Melton Mowbray? If someone else in another part of the UK or another country makes a better product than these people, what does this actually achieve for them? Sounds like legalised protectionism to me.

A very good friend of mine was brought up in Trowbridge and she regularly commented on the disgusting smell that eminated fron the pork pie factory there. Why anyone would consider eating this rubbish is quite beyond me. Why the EU would even give these people 1 second of their time is even more unbelievable.
What an amazingly ill-informed rant!

Sounds like legalised protectionism to you does it? Like Parma Ham or Andouilette de Troyes or Serrano ham? All sorts of regional foods are location protected these days.

You've evidently only ever eaten cheap factory pork pies, not proper handmade butchers ones with hand raised pastry cases and a filling made only from stilton whey-fed lean pork and black pepper. Saying you think pork pies are disgusting because you've only ever eaten sh!te ones is like saying a Henriot Cuvee des Enchanteleurs Brut 1989 champagne is crap because you've only tried Happy Shopper champagne style lambrini.
so exactly how do you you know what I've eaten? I tried a pork pie many years ago, Melton Mowbray from an independent Deli. It was disgusting. Fair enough, taste is subjective. I then researched what was in the pie which put me right off. Unfortunately, most people will say "but it tastes good, so what's the problem?". Most can't be arsed to research what's actually in the food they eat. It can be as organic as you like but it doesn't mean it's doing your body any good whatsoever. Still that's a personal choice but when people try and 'protect' a product and use that 'protection' as a marketing tool when it contains widely accepted unhealthy ingredients then that is totally wrong.

Hardly surprising the UK is the most obese nation in Europe.

Edited by Silver993tt on Friday 7th August 19:19
So you found out that a Melton Mowbray pork pie can only contain pork, flour, water and black pepper and it put you right off did it? rolleyes

As for your bizarre drivel about using protection as a marketing tool to protect unhealthy food for marketing purposes, well just about every decent cheese variety is location protected and just about every cheese is far less healthy than a pork pie containing a vastly higher proportion of saturated fat. By your odd perspective we should ban all those location protected Spanish cheeses that have a far higher fat content than a pork pie then like Sierra de Carzola, Manchego La Mancha or the spectacularly unhealthy Torta la Serena?

Oddly enough you might find America is fatter than the UK and don't eat any pork pies at all. Great logic there genius.
looks like i've hit a sore point on your diet smile
Nope, I just have a low tolerance for ignorance. smile

Silver993tt

Original Poster:

9,064 posts

263 months

Friday 7th August 2009
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OnTheOverrun said:
Silver993tt said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Silver993tt said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Silver993tt said:
Also, so what about Melton Mowbray? If someone else in another part of the UK or another country makes a better product than these people, what does this actually achieve for them? Sounds like legalised protectionism to me.

A very good friend of mine was brought up in Trowbridge and she regularly commented on the disgusting smell that eminated fron the pork pie factory there. Why anyone would consider eating this rubbish is quite beyond me. Why the EU would even give these people 1 second of their time is even more unbelievable.
What an amazingly ill-informed rant!

Sounds like legalised protectionism to you does it? Like Parma Ham or Andouilette de Troyes or Serrano ham? All sorts of regional foods are location protected these days.

You've evidently only ever eaten cheap factory pork pies, not proper handmade butchers ones with hand raised pastry cases and a filling made only from stilton whey-fed lean pork and black pepper. Saying you think pork pies are disgusting because you've only ever eaten sh!te ones is like saying a Henriot Cuvee des Enchanteleurs Brut 1989 champagne is crap because you've only tried Happy Shopper champagne style lambrini.
so exactly how do you you know what I've eaten? I tried a pork pie many years ago, Melton Mowbray from an independent Deli. It was disgusting. Fair enough, taste is subjective. I then researched what was in the pie which put me right off. Unfortunately, most people will say "but it tastes good, so what's the problem?". Most can't be arsed to research what's actually in the food they eat. It can be as organic as you like but it doesn't mean it's doing your body any good whatsoever. Still that's a personal choice but when people try and 'protect' a product and use that 'protection' as a marketing tool when it contains widely accepted unhealthy ingredients then that is totally wrong.

Hardly surprising the UK is the most obese nation in Europe.

Edited by Silver993tt on Friday 7th August 19:19
So you found out that a Melton Mowbray pork pie can only contain pork, flour, water and black pepper and it put you right off did it? rolleyes

As for your bizarre drivel about using protection as a marketing tool to protect unhealthy food for marketing purposes, well just about every decent cheese variety is location protected and just about every cheese is far less healthy than a pork pie containing a vastly higher proportion of saturated fat. By your odd perspective we should ban all those location protected Spanish cheeses that have a far higher fat content than a pork pie then like Sierra de Carzola, Manchego La Mancha or the spectacularly unhealthy Torta la Serena?

Oddly enough you might find America is fatter than the UK and don't eat any pork pies at all. Great logic there genius.
looks like i've hit a sore point on your diet smile
Nope, I just have a low tolerance for ignorance. smile
really, ever looked in the mirror smile

OnTheOverrun

3,965 posts

201 months

Friday 7th August 2009
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Silver993tt said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Silver993tt said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Silver993tt said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Silver993tt said:
Also, so what about Melton Mowbray? If someone else in another part of the UK or another country makes a better product than these people, what does this actually achieve for them? Sounds like legalised protectionism to me.

A very good friend of mine was brought up in Trowbridge and she regularly commented on the disgusting smell that eminated fron the pork pie factory there. Why anyone would consider eating this rubbish is quite beyond me. Why the EU would even give these people 1 second of their time is even more unbelievable.
What an amazingly ill-informed rant!

Sounds like legalised protectionism to you does it? Like Parma Ham or Andouilette de Troyes or Serrano ham? All sorts of regional foods are location protected these days.

You've evidently only ever eaten cheap factory pork pies, not proper handmade butchers ones with hand raised pastry cases and a filling made only from stilton whey-fed lean pork and black pepper. Saying you think pork pies are disgusting because you've only ever eaten sh!te ones is like saying a Henriot Cuvee des Enchanteleurs Brut 1989 champagne is crap because you've only tried Happy Shopper champagne style lambrini.
so exactly how do you you know what I've eaten? I tried a pork pie many years ago, Melton Mowbray from an independent Deli. It was disgusting. Fair enough, taste is subjective. I then researched what was in the pie which put me right off. Unfortunately, most people will say "but it tastes good, so what's the problem?". Most can't be arsed to research what's actually in the food they eat. It can be as organic as you like but it doesn't mean it's doing your body any good whatsoever. Still that's a personal choice but when people try and 'protect' a product and use that 'protection' as a marketing tool when it contains widely accepted unhealthy ingredients then that is totally wrong.

Hardly surprising the UK is the most obese nation in Europe.

Edited by Silver993tt on Friday 7th August 19:19
So you found out that a Melton Mowbray pork pie can only contain pork, flour, water and black pepper and it put you right off did it? rolleyes

As for your bizarre drivel about using protection as a marketing tool to protect unhealthy food for marketing purposes, well just about every decent cheese variety is location protected and just about every cheese is far less healthy than a pork pie containing a vastly higher proportion of saturated fat. By your odd perspective we should ban all those location protected Spanish cheeses that have a far higher fat content than a pork pie then like Sierra de Carzola, Manchego La Mancha or the spectacularly unhealthy Torta la Serena?

Oddly enough you might find America is fatter than the UK and don't eat any pork pies at all. Great logic there genius.
looks like i've hit a sore point on your diet smile
Nope, I just have a low tolerance for ignorance. smile
really, ever looked in the mirror smile
If you had a cogent argument and hadn't obviously realised you were spouting nonsense, you wouldn't be trying this hard to steer the thread away from the rubbish you posted. . . . . .

calibrax

4,788 posts

235 months

Friday 7th August 2009
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Probably best not to feed the troll. Or maybe feed him pork pies, then he'll go away.

A proper pork pie deserves full protection, just like a Cornish Pasty does... how healthy they are or not is totally irrelevant. I don't like most soft cheeses but that doesn't mean I would deny others the right to enjoy them or protect them... taste is very much a subjective thing.

OnTheOverrun

3,965 posts

201 months

Friday 7th August 2009
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calibrax said:
Probably best not to feed the troll. Or maybe feed him pork pies, then he'll go away.

A proper pork pie deserves full protection, just like a Cornish Pasty does... how healthy they are or not is totally irrelevant. I don't like most soft cheeses but that doesn't mean I would deny others the right to enjoy them or protect them... taste is very much a subjective thing.
Good advice. He seems to be an ex-pat with an anti-British chip on his shoulder from looking at his posting history. I'll ignore him from now on. smile

mattley

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246 months

Friday 7th August 2009
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Silver993tt said:
I tried a pork pie many years ago, Melton Mowbray from an independent Deli. It was disgusting. Fair enough, taste is subjective. I then researched what was in the pie which put me right off.
Ah! Now maybe this is why the good people of Melton Mobray want trademark protection. At the moment anyone can make any old st and put Melton Mobray on the label.

Also because of the way a MM pork pie is made the base is usually a greasy mess and not to be eaten, they also need to be a competent size, mini pork pies are just a stupid pastry/fat to meat ratio you need a good proper slice with English mustard on the side.

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

272 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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OnTheOverrun said:
calibrax said:
Probably best not to feed the troll. Or maybe feed him pork pies, then he'll go away.

A proper pork pie deserves full protection, just like a Cornish Pasty does... how healthy they are or not is totally irrelevant. I don't like most soft cheeses but that doesn't mean I would deny others the right to enjoy them or protect them... taste is very much a subjective thing.
Good advice. He seems to be an ex-pat with an anti-British chip on his shoulder from looking at his posting history. I'll ignore him from now on. smile
Had the same thing on the DIY Forum. Wound a few people up on there too. I'll ignore the troll too in future.

escargot

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241 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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mmm pork pies

kiteless

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228 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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escargot said:
mmm pork pies
Yup.

Crispy pastry, full of good, well seasoned, un-cured pork, a little jelly. Food of the Gods.