Small Unboned Gammon Joint
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navier_stokes

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948 posts

223 months

Friday 4th September 2009
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Some people roast it completely, some simmer in water completely but I've heard the best way is to simmer in water and then roast with a glaze to finish, but:

What proportion of simmering in water/roasting do I need per kg?

Cheers wink

shirt

25,078 posts

225 months

Friday 4th September 2009
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soak it overnight to bring out the salt, much nicer. can't help with the timings tho. simmer til cooked, roast for the glaze.

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

255 months

Friday 4th September 2009
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Halve an onion, spread it round the base of the pot, insert gammon, pour over fullfat Coke enough to drown it, and simmer away for an afternoon. Quick roast to finish the outside (or make up a nice breadcrumb and mustard crust).

The dead coke can then be used for a nice soupstock base.

Papoo

3,927 posts

222 months

Friday 4th September 2009
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Simmering in water is only going to pull out flavour. I often soak something in water for a few hours to reduce the salt content, but, I would go with the coke/dr pepper option. It works a treat.

I have a whole ham to do next week, and I'll be smoking it over pecan wood for a day. Then making a crispy glaze using Dr pepper, too... Nom nom nom.

grumbledoak

32,400 posts

257 months

Friday 4th September 2009
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randlemarcus said:
The dead coke can then be used for a nice soupstock base.
This is a joke, right? Or are you making "Haribo Tangfastic soup" for the kids?

The only good use for flat coke is degreasing your drive.

FunkyGibbon

3,846 posts

288 months

Friday 4th September 2009
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navier_stokes said:
Some people roast it completely, some simmer in water completely but I've heard the best way is to simmer in water and then roast with a glaze to finish, but:

What proportion of simmering in water/roasting do I need per kg?

Cheers wink
45mins per kg. 1/2 the time in water, 1/2 in oven (180 degs). Simple and tasty.

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

255 months

Friday 4th September 2009
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grumbledoak said:
randlemarcus said:
The dead coke can then be used for a nice soupstock base.
This is a joke, right? Or are you making "Haribo Tangfastic soup" for the kids?

The only good use for flat coke is degreasing your drive.
Agreed, its for a select few soups hehe

http://www.durston.org.uk/Recipe/South%20Beach%20B...

grumbledoak

32,400 posts

257 months

Friday 4th September 2009
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Well, you learn something new every day!

"Dr. Pepper! What's the worst that can happen?"

Well, boiling some meat in it, clearly.

shirt

25,078 posts

225 months

Sunday 6th September 2009
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just about to make a roast gammon joint. was going to do a honey/orange glaze but out of sheer curiousity i'm going for dr pepper.

internet says:

1 cup Dr P
1.5cups Brown Sugar
4tbsp orange juice
4tsp dijon mustard,

will let you know how it goes tomorrow.

navier_stokes

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948 posts

223 months

Sunday 6th September 2009
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I went 45 minutes simmered, followed by criss-crossing the fat, an awesome honey and mustard dressing and roasted in a hot over for 25 min. Probably could have done a bit less simmering; twas a kilo joint. Turned out superb though wink

Bill

57,474 posts

279 months

Monday 7th September 2009
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Coke or Dr Pepper?yuck

I simmer it in cider with an onion, a bay leaf and a few peppercorns and then bake with either honey and mustard or mustard and demereralick

Shaolin

2,955 posts

213 months

Monday 7th September 2009
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Another vote for the coke. It's actually more like sweet water, the flavour is overwhelmed by the meat to a large degree, but the coke does add a nice subtle flavour. Wouldn't use it afterwards though.

shirt

25,078 posts

225 months

Tuesday 8th September 2009
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i had the sense to make the dr pepper glaze prior to cooking the gammon. i may have messed up and burnt through not whisking enough but it was horrible. i intend to have another crack with some chicken wings but it wasn't good this time.

ended up simmering for 30mins in orange juice and cloves, then roasting for 45mins with a honey and pepper glaze.

this was supposed to be my sandwich fillings for the rest of the week, but i scoffed the lot last night! [1kg joint]