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Cactussed

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5,363 posts

241 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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I cooked this over the Easter weekend.

Braised Ox cheek with some other stuff.

Anyway, I sealed the cheeks in a pan, added the veg, stock, wine, herbs etc and threw it in the oven. For 5 hours. Looks OK I guess, and my (polite) guests assured me it was lovely but I thought the meat was as dry and tough as a dead dingo's donger (as we say in Australia). I didn't eat most of mine.

Anyway, I though 5 hours would have been long enough (oven on about 140 odd) but I guess not. Not to be put off, I removed the 2 remaining cheeks the following day (quit sniggering at the back) and transferred the whole lot to a small pot, added some more stock and put them on a low heat on the stove. For another 3 hours. Finally, I got the result I wanted. Lovely rich gravy and meat you could eat with a spoon. Pity I was on my own and had to eat the lot!

Anyway. My long-winded question is: Is 8 hours cooking normal, or was my oven down too low?? I would have given them that long had I a) known; and b) not been out until 2am the night before, so didn't really get cooking until 10:30 for a 3pm kick-off.



Edited by Cactussed on Tuesday 6th April 15:59

Workshy Fop

761 posts

295 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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I had some pig face in a restaurant a few weeks ago and the waiter said they soak them in brine for 3 days first, so maybe that's the trick. I did an oxtail stew yesterday and that took 2.5 hours at 170 and is proper fall-aparty.

jonlk

215 posts

198 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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Cactussed said:
Anyway. My long-winded question is: Is 8 hours cooking normal, or was my oven down too low?? I would have given them that long had I a) known; and b) not been out until 2am the night before, so didn't really get cooking until 10:30 for a 3pm kick-off.

Edited by Cactussed on Tuesday 6th April 15:59
I made this a while ago http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/database/braised... and I had them in for c7hrs and they came out the way you described the second time around. I think this is pretty much the norm tbh. Oh, there was also a 12hr marinade which may have affected things somewhat!

P.s. Looking good as always Cactussed.

Cactussed

Original Poster:

5,363 posts

241 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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OK, at least six hours, plus marinating time (acid in wine would have begun breaking down the meat anyway). So, it would seem 8 hours is not excessive then. I reckon they could have cooked for even longer to be honest.

Oh well. I'll just have to have another dinner party and make a better fist of things next time 'round.

Don

28,378 posts

312 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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I did a Pork Shank in the slow cooker for ten hours recently.

Not as fall-a-party as I would have liked...I reckon it could have taken another four or five hours easily.

Really tough cuts take a really long while.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

277 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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Cactussed said:
Anyway, I sealed the cheeks in a pan, added the veg, stock, wine, herbs etc and threw it in the oven. For 5 hours. Looks OK I guess, and my (polite) guests assured me it was lovely but I thought the meat was as dry and tough as a dead dingo's donger (as we say in Australia). I didn't eat most of mine.
not being hungover might help wink

Cactussed

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5,363 posts

241 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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sleep envy said:
not being hungover might help wink
Um, yeah. I expect that was a factor.
2 nights in a row until 2am killed me.
I was seriously on the verge of calling everyone to rescheule....

Mobile Chicane

21,959 posts

240 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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I now cook untried meats a day or two ahead given the embarrassment of the Coq au Vin (made from proper old Coq) that I'd stewed for 4, 6, then 8 hours and the meat was still like tractor tyres.

Two days in the slow cooker would have done it, I think.

Lefty Two Drams

20,826 posts

230 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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Mobile Chicane said:
I now cook untried meats a day or two ahead given the embarrassment of the Coq au Vin (made from proper old Coq) that I'd stewed for 4, 6, then 8 hours and the meat was still like tractor tyres.

Two days in the slow cooker would have done it, I think.
rofl

Nothing quite like a tough old coq eh?

I've tried it once too and it was boody awful. Young chook only these days.

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Mobile Chicane

21,959 posts

240 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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Lefty Two Drams said:
Mobile Chicane said:
I now cook untried meats a day or two ahead given the embarrassment of the Coq au Vin (made from proper old Coq) that I'd stewed for 4, 6, then 8 hours and the meat was still like tractor tyres.

Two days in the slow cooker would have done it, I think.
rofl

Nothing quite like a tough old coq eh?

I've tried it once too and it was boody awful. Young chook only these days.

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hehe

Said Coq was bought in France and not cheap, either.

I think they're only selling it to fleece the foodie English when in all likelihood, the French won't go near the stuff.