Am on the dreaded diet - need recipe ideas
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Did this on Saturday. Not sure how many calories but it can't be *that* many 
http://www.channel4.com/4food/recipes/tv-show-reci...
Absolutely delicious...
http://www.channel4.com/4food/recipes/tv-show-reci...
Absolutely delicious...
t isn't it. 
I don't really agree with all these funky diets, it all boils down to
calories in v calories used.
If one is larger than the other then you will go one way or another. I think the simple fact is people like eating and drinking more than they like exercise or have a lifestyle which is sedate, working in front of a computer screen and still like food.
Mind you, all this is not making you thinner. I did something the other day. I got a tin of Heinz tomato soup and rather than just having that I boiled some onions first, then added the soup, then some baby spinach and finally put a small amount of grated parmesan on the top. It actually tasted, as you can imagine, rather pizza like, had enough body and taste to be filling and satisfying and was not many calories. I could have added some tabasco, Lea and Perrins, soy sauce or similar as well to give it a twist. With a large chunk of crusty bread, no butter, then it would have been perfect.
Andy
calories in v calories used.
If one is larger than the other then you will go one way or another. I think the simple fact is people like eating and drinking more than they like exercise or have a lifestyle which is sedate, working in front of a computer screen and still like food.
Mind you, all this is not making you thinner. I did something the other day. I got a tin of Heinz tomato soup and rather than just having that I boiled some onions first, then added the soup, then some baby spinach and finally put a small amount of grated parmesan on the top. It actually tasted, as you can imagine, rather pizza like, had enough body and taste to be filling and satisfying and was not many calories. I could have added some tabasco, Lea and Perrins, soy sauce or similar as well to give it a twist. With a large chunk of crusty bread, no butter, then it would have been perfect.
Andy
This - https://programme.alli.co.uk/Recipe/1788.aspx
Quick, pretty simple, low fat/carb (for the OH) and 'dinner party' style food. Very filling too.
Quick, pretty simple, low fat/carb (for the OH) and 'dinner party' style food. Very filling too.
zakelwe said:
I don't really agree with all these funky diets, it all boils down to
calories in v calories used.
If one is larger than the other then you will go one way or another.
Don't wholly disagree with you Andy, with 2 caveats:calories in v calories used.
If one is larger than the other then you will go one way or another.
1. Cutting out booze is a big part of it; and
2. Calorie usage isn't linear, and nor is fat storage / burning. If it was, it'd be a simple in/out equation. Sadly, eating a large meal before bed then nothing the following day doesn't work.
So, limiting calorie (and particularly carbohydrate) intake later in the day usually aids weight loss. I guess I'm not dieting per se, just temporarily altering what I eat and when, and cutting out a few things.
Soups
Broccoli and Stilton
Cauliflower and cheese
Serve these with loads of veg
Chicken and pesto ( http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/1521/summerinwi... )
Chicken tikka (Buy a chicken and joint it get some yoghurt spices garlic and ginger and marinade)
Chicken stuffed with a small amount of cream cheese wrapped parma ham
Chicken and bacon Salad
Buffalo Chicken
Spag or Chilli but with a big plate of cabbage instead of rice or pasta
Broccoli and Stilton
Cauliflower and cheese
Serve these with loads of veg
Chicken and pesto ( http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/1521/summerinwi... )
Chicken tikka (Buy a chicken and joint it get some yoghurt spices garlic and ginger and marinade)
Chicken stuffed with a small amount of cream cheese wrapped parma ham
Chicken and bacon Salad
Buffalo Chicken
Spag or Chilli but with a big plate of cabbage instead of rice or pasta
Cactussed said:
2. Calorie usage isn't linear, and nor is fat storage / burning. If it was, it'd be a simple in/out equation. Sadly, eating a large meal before bed then nothing the following day doesn't work.
So, limiting calorie (and particularly carbohydrate) intake later in the day usually aids weight loss.
You got anything credible to support this? I only ask because it's been pretty comprehensively debunked...So, limiting calorie (and particularly carbohydrate) intake later in the day usually aids weight loss.
Dave200 said:
Cactussed said:
2. Calorie usage isn't linear, and nor is fat storage / burning. If it was, it'd be a simple in/out equation. Sadly, eating a large meal before bed then nothing the following day doesn't work.
So, limiting calorie (and particularly carbohydrate) intake later in the day usually aids weight loss.
You got anything credible to support this? I only ask because it's been pretty comprehensively debunked...So, limiting calorie (and particularly carbohydrate) intake later in the day usually aids weight loss.
I would be suprised if the comments above had been "debunked"....it sounds like common sense to me.
Different opinions; different people!
Bing o said:
Dave200 said:
You got anything credible to support this? I only ask because it's been pretty comprehensively debunked...
Dave - how can we become as gorgeous as you are? We need to know your secrets...This business of cutting out carbs before bed is one of the biggest nutritional myths ever created, up there with "if you don't eat at least 100g of protein per day, you will never gain an ounce of muscle".
To effect weightloss, it is a simple case of: calories expended (basal + exercise) > calories ingested.
All this business about "tricking" your metabolism by eating smaller, more frequent meals is largely psychosomatic, and in most cases will only help to stop hunger cravings on relatively low calorie intakes.
My advice: Stop looking for the quick wins. Get in the gym and sweat it out.
This is quick and easy and delicious :
Haddock or any chunky white fish, lightly oil a ceramic tray and place fish in. Chop 1 white onion, a good handfull of cherry tomatoes, 1 teaspon of capers, 1 small garlic clove, thinly sliced red pepper and put in a pan with a tiny bit of olive oil. On a light heat soften everything then add the zest and juice of 1 whole lemon, a good handfull of Parsley and half the quantity of Dill. Spoon the mixture over the fish, cover with foil and bake in a preheated oven for around 8-10 mins. Serve with lots of green vegetables and a few new potatoes. Low in fat, low in calories (provided you don't go mad with the spuds) and very nice!
Ah just read the low carb bit so delete spuds and add more green veg!
Haddock or any chunky white fish, lightly oil a ceramic tray and place fish in. Chop 1 white onion, a good handfull of cherry tomatoes, 1 teaspon of capers, 1 small garlic clove, thinly sliced red pepper and put in a pan with a tiny bit of olive oil. On a light heat soften everything then add the zest and juice of 1 whole lemon, a good handfull of Parsley and half the quantity of Dill. Spoon the mixture over the fish, cover with foil and bake in a preheated oven for around 8-10 mins. Serve with lots of green vegetables and a few new potatoes. Low in fat, low in calories (provided you don't go mad with the spuds) and very nice!
Ah just read the low carb bit so delete spuds and add more green veg!
Edited by T5GRF on Wednesday 26th January 10:53
Dave200 said:
To effect weightloss, it is a simple case of: calories expended (basal + exercise) > calories ingested.
All this business about "tricking" your metabolism by eating smaller, more frequent meals is largely psychosomatic, and in most cases will only help to stop hunger cravings on relatively low calorie intakes.
My advice: Stop looking for the quick wins. Get in the gym and sweat it out.
Highlighted a rather significant work there. You seem to think that stopping hunger pangs is a minor thing? In my experience, losing weight is 90% psychological and sticking to your nutritional goals is by far the hardest bit. We all know that we've got to get out and exercise, and what is and isn't good for us to eat - but getting over the mid-morning munchies is genuinely difficult! If we can mitigate the effects by eating more regularly then that's a huge step and certainly not worthy of being dismissed as an 'only'.All this business about "tricking" your metabolism by eating smaller, more frequent meals is largely psychosomatic, and in most cases will only help to stop hunger cravings on relatively low calorie intakes.
My advice: Stop looking for the quick wins. Get in the gym and sweat it out.
On the carbs v protein argument I'd tend to agree with you, but would add that
a) for a given number of calories, protein will generally make you feel more full than carbs
b) it takes more energy to break down (most) protein than it does (most) carbs, so net energy intake with protein is generally lower than carbs.
I certainly find that if I make a positive effort to eat more protein and fewer carbs then I get far fewer snack cravings, and that's good enough for me.
Some very strange ideas about dieting being bandied about here.
Simple fact is you need to burn more cals than you ingest.Doesn't matter whether it's night or day,complex carbs or protein.(these will effect muscle building and recovery but that's a different matter.)
Calories are Calories day or night and if you eat too many..
Losing weight is 90% diet and 10% exercise.
Simple fact is you need to burn more cals than you ingest.Doesn't matter whether it's night or day,complex carbs or protein.(these will effect muscle building and recovery but that's a different matter.)
Calories are Calories day or night and if you eat too many..
Losing weight is 90% diet and 10% exercise.
I'd only add to what has been said already to keep an eye on the GI rate of the foods. I don't do fad diets, but this is how some diabetics manage their sugar levels. GI = the rate at which we drw sugars from each food. Where it helps us lose weight is that by keeping a constant lower sugar absorbtion rate we are more able to burn it than store it. This is why booze, like refined foods, is so fattening - the sugars/carbs are quickly digested, can't use them at that rate, so stored as fat. White rice and smoothies are surprisingly bad in this respect. Protein and unrefined foods are digested more slowly, which helps, and should stop hunger pangs. Lots of (most types of) fruit and veg.
Not the be all and end all, but check it out. Btw, large G&T with Slimline = 50 cals, though not sure the lemon counts towards the 5 a day.
Ok, I'm not a cook, as will soon become evident, but here's something tasty and easy with no bad bits afaik.
Chop into chunks (sufficient) chicken breasts and marinate in a mix of low fat yoghurt (big pot), tablespoon of curry powder (adjust to taste), teaspoon turmeric, table spoon lemon juice. Leave overnight or however long you've got.
Skewer the pieces of chicken interspersed with large chunks of onion, pepper, mushrooms, cheery tomatoes and grill, basting with some of the marinade.
Make a salad and either as a dressing or side dish, mix some finely chopped onion, lemon juice and mint, fresh or dried. Adjust the flavour until it's appley, less harsh. Microwave some poppadoms (yes, I know, but this way theyre 27 cals each and better than nothing). Avoid the pickes, but I guess you could mix some yoghurt with the mint, but not done this, or the onion and mint side dish. Serve with brown rice if you think you'll be hungry, or a mix of brown and white.
Nowhere on the Escargot scale of culianry excellence but easy, tasty healthy food.
Only down side is you'l fancy a beer, which will test your won't-power, and grill will be a mess.
Btw years ago lost 3 st by less fat, less beer, less carbs and incorportaing brisk walking into my daily commute. Good luck
Not the be all and end all, but check it out. Btw, large G&T with Slimline = 50 cals, though not sure the lemon counts towards the 5 a day.
Ok, I'm not a cook, as will soon become evident, but here's something tasty and easy with no bad bits afaik.
Chop into chunks (sufficient) chicken breasts and marinate in a mix of low fat yoghurt (big pot), tablespoon of curry powder (adjust to taste), teaspoon turmeric, table spoon lemon juice. Leave overnight or however long you've got.
Skewer the pieces of chicken interspersed with large chunks of onion, pepper, mushrooms, cheery tomatoes and grill, basting with some of the marinade.
Make a salad and either as a dressing or side dish, mix some finely chopped onion, lemon juice and mint, fresh or dried. Adjust the flavour until it's appley, less harsh. Microwave some poppadoms (yes, I know, but this way theyre 27 cals each and better than nothing). Avoid the pickes, but I guess you could mix some yoghurt with the mint, but not done this, or the onion and mint side dish. Serve with brown rice if you think you'll be hungry, or a mix of brown and white.
Nowhere on the Escargot scale of culianry excellence but easy, tasty healthy food.
Only down side is you'l fancy a beer, which will test your won't-power, and grill will be a mess.
Btw years ago lost 3 st by less fat, less beer, less carbs and incorportaing brisk walking into my daily commute. Good luck
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