The Ultimate Blues Tone
Discussion
Having recently bought my first brand new amp, this is what I'm searching for.
Now realising that I can't really do shredding any more, I'm going back to my roots and concentrating on the blues. The new Vox is very versatile with valves and various "amp modelling circuits", so it can imitate anything from an AC30TB to Fender Twin to a Kendrick 2x12.
I've found a great "Dave Gilmour" solo sound, but I'm after a singing, soulful, blues solo tone that's not too bright but not too distorted.
Initially I thought of Gary Moore's "Still Got The Blues" sound, but a 'tube search told me it's not that. I love Buddy Guy, but his tone is too distorted. Muddy Waters / T-Bone Walker / BB King / Hubert Sumlin? Too clean. Albert King? Great blues player, but a nasty tone for me. And, although I love SRV's playing his sound never did much for me.
Currently, the best I can find is Clapton playing this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6t_1blRfFIU
Am I missing a great blues solo tone?
Suggestions more than welcome.
I'll pretend to be Gilmour in the meantime
Now realising that I can't really do shredding any more, I'm going back to my roots and concentrating on the blues. The new Vox is very versatile with valves and various "amp modelling circuits", so it can imitate anything from an AC30TB to Fender Twin to a Kendrick 2x12.
I've found a great "Dave Gilmour" solo sound, but I'm after a singing, soulful, blues solo tone that's not too bright but not too distorted.
Initially I thought of Gary Moore's "Still Got The Blues" sound, but a 'tube search told me it's not that. I love Buddy Guy, but his tone is too distorted. Muddy Waters / T-Bone Walker / BB King / Hubert Sumlin? Too clean. Albert King? Great blues player, but a nasty tone for me. And, although I love SRV's playing his sound never did much for me.
Currently, the best I can find is Clapton playing this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6t_1blRfFIU
Am I missing a great blues solo tone?
Suggestions more than welcome.
I'll pretend to be Gilmour in the meantime

Tone is in the fingers. 
I've heard great musicians make any combination of s
t equipment sound awesome - it's all about the playing really.
But if you want to get a good "brown sound", roll back the treble on the guitar and select an amp model something like either a Marshall JTM45 or a Fender valve amp (they're quite similarly built IIRC).

I've heard great musicians make any combination of s
t equipment sound awesome - it's all about the playing really.But if you want to get a good "brown sound", roll back the treble on the guitar and select an amp model something like either a Marshall JTM45 or a Fender valve amp (they're quite similarly built IIRC).
How about Rory's tone here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxiEMpcI83E
DocJock said:
Wow, thank you for posting that. It's sublime. Never heard of him before!Ten Years After - Recorded Live (1973) would also be worth a listen for Alvin Lee. You may also want to check out Walter Trout & George Thorogood. My two playing style influences were Billy F Gibbons (Check out "ZZ Top's First Album" and other pre Eliminator stuff) and Leslie West of Mountain although he might be too blues rock.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQeXXPoBgtY&fea...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQeXXPoBgtY&fea...
I think the best tones are those you have discounted already 
A little left field: Paul Gilbert Red House

A little left field: Paul Gilbert Red House
Funk said:
Toyowner said:
Yeah, thanks for the Alvin Lee,is there a recommended album ? just had a wonder thruogh youtube and itunes and a big choice.
I'm going to start with the album that song's taken from - 'Pure Blues'...JFReturns said:
I think the best tones are those you have discounted already
Fair play, but it's all very subjective when it comes down to what "sounds" good and what doesn't. One person's rich, attitude laden, distortion is another person's muddy, indecipherable noise.Don't get me wrong, all of the tones I mentioned in my OP are not - to my ears - disagreeable. It's just that I am after a particular blues solo sound. As it turns out, so far, the Alvin Lee solo sound posted above is pretty f
king droolsome 
And to think that, for years, my abiding memory of Alvin Lee was his chinny w
k fest that was "I'm Going Home" from Woodstock 
I've got 3 TYA albums in the car,and they're very good,but I prefer this sound:
Joe Bonamassa - So Many Roads
http://youtu.be/3dvl1QJA__Y
Joe Bonamassa - So Many Roads
http://youtu.be/3dvl1QJA__Y
minimatt1967 said:
Peter Green was good too.
That just had me trawling the 'tube for Greeny moments. It eventually threw up this by Gary (R.I.P.):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWwUQ6gbKIo&fea...
This, for me, nips at the heels of Alvin Lee's sound. Bloody lovely (although it helps if one is playing Peter Green's Les Paul with its odd wiring)
Funk said:
DocJock said:
Wow, thank you for posting that. It's sublime. Never heard of him before!Saw Alvin Lee at a festival in '74 (
) without TYA, and he was incredible.Stevie Ray Vaughan. Huge tone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0ojCVmiQTw
http://www.djnoble.demon.co.uk/ints/STEVIER.VS.htm...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0ojCVmiQTw
http://www.djnoble.demon.co.uk/ints/STEVIER.VS.htm...
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