My first prog trance tune

[RemainAllHoof]

UPDATE: See post 14 for newer version.

Something I created a while ago but forgot to post up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usOllQzj6js

Only remembered it because I'm working on a revision of it.

Comments, criticisms etc appreciated.

Edited by RemainAllHoof on Thursday 4th August 10:17

[RemainAllHoof]

Anyone listened to it then? Where are the trance fans??

[Devilstreak]

Bookmarked to have a listen later

[RemainAllHoof]

Cool. I am starting to wonder if I have already posted it on PH. I thought I had only asked Don1 for his opinion. *scratches head*

[lazyitus]

I can't access it at work but will look later.

What software did you use ?

[RemainAllHoof]

lazyitus said:

I can't access it at work but will look later.

What software did you use ?

So you know what to avoid, eh?

FL Studio and Kristal. I play with ideas on my Korg digital piano and Roland MC303 as it feels less restrictive to be able to use a keyboard/hardware than purely software; it's also more fun. Then scribble down the notes used, pauses etc using very dodgy notation on blank score paper before the boring work begins.

[RemainAllHoof]

If you've never done this kind of thing before, have a look at the Ejay series of products as they provide a cheap, simplified way of learning about music production.

[lazyitus]

RemainAllHoof said:

If you've never done this kind of thing before, have a look at the Ejay series of products as they provide a cheap, simplified way of learning about music production.

[RemainAllHoof]

http://www.ejay-store.eu/product-description-R-Dan...

Probably get it cheaper in Game as they often have special offers on this level and age of software. I picked up Dance Ejay 6 for about £5 as part of a deal with two other games...

[RemainAllHoof]

Evening bump! Anyone? (I'm not looking for flattery, although that would be nice.)

[rhinochopig]

As a long long time fan of the genre - some 20+ years here's my critique.

The positives:

• I'd probably buy it if it way on i-tunes.
• I'm reminded very much of cosmic baby - which is definitely a positive.
• Some nice individual elements.
• It's well sequenced.
• Nice use of instruments

The negatives - for me anyway.

• The transitions are too long, and by that I mean too long periods of the same thing. If you want maintain the length of a riff, then it needs to be building or falling and not remain static.
• I agree with the you-tube post - the soundstage is too narrow.
• Could do with a bit more bass - the bass drum is a litte weedy on its own.
• It doesn't tell a story for me - I like my trance to build into something
• It's missing a hook that gets under your skin - a riff that will keep you humming it when you've finished listening.

Overall though it's pretty good.

Have a listen to these for some inspiration - they illustrate what I'm struggling to put into words.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVabUMqVREw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBs413S2BB8&fea...

[RemainAllHoof]

rhinochopig said:

As a long long time fan of the genre - some 20+ years here's my critique.

The positives:

• I'd probably buy it if it way on i-tunes.
• I'm reminded very much of cosmic baby - which is definitely a positive.
• Some nice individual elements.
• It's well sequenced.
• Nice use of instruments

The negatives - for me anyway.

• The transitions are too long, and by that I mean too long periods of the same thing. If you want maintain the length of a riff, then it needs to be building or falling and not remain static.
• I agree with the you-tube post - the soundstage is too narrow.
• Could do with a bit more bass - the bass drum is a litte weedy on its own.
• It doesn't tell a story for me - I like my trance to build into something
• It's missing a hook that gets under your skin - a riff that will keep you humming it when you've finished listening.

Thanks. I agree with all the negatives; it's stuff I've also decided that was wrong with it, too, so I've spent ages redoing all the drum loops as it was bugging me. I'm still working on some of the other things as I kinda get bored of listening to it ie something isn't right!

BTW I am chuffed that you said you'd buy it if it were on itunes. Thanks for making my evening.

[RemainAllHoof]

Ok, I've uploaded a revised version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F72LCCpz5JI

Let me know what you think.

[RemainAllHoof]

Wonder if I should start a new thread as version 2 isn't what I'd call progressive trance.

[Don1]

Email sent fella! Basically, it's good, the hook you get lost in, but needs to be faster and bigger. But the end you'd be able to bring 'System F - Out of the Blue' into it a real treat!

[RemainAllHoof]

Don1 said:

Email sent fella! Basically, it's good, the hook you get lost in, but needs to be faster and bigger. But the end you'd be able to bring 'System F - Out of the Blue' into it a real treat!

Thanks. Replied but a bit confused.