Cream...what a cool band
Cream...what a cool band
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countachman

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1,290 posts

240 months

Friday 21st February 2014
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Just put the best of Cream on after hundreds of years....brilliant...how good were they. Thoughts........

gazza285

11,109 posts

237 months

Friday 21st February 2014
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I'm not that impressed to be honest, and Jack Bruce comes over as one hell of a knob-head. Better than Zep?

countachman

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1,290 posts

240 months

Friday 21st February 2014
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Gazza. ..what the music isn't up to much???....not comparing with Zep at all it was just a real pleasant surprise on listening to th vinyl LP in all these years.

Erm I'd like to see the film on ginger baker though...where is the cheapest DVD?

gazza285

11,109 posts

237 months

Friday 21st February 2014
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I was never impressed by the lyrics or the delivery of them. I think they were too restrained as well, I get the impression that Ginger Baker wanted to let loose a lot more but didn't get the chance. The whole was less than the sum of the parts, which is why they didn't last. My own opinion, of course.

countachman

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1,290 posts

240 months

Friday 21st February 2014
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Yes it didn't last for a reason but I'm not going mad
am I? The best of Cream has some good tunes on it?

Oh I do agree old Baker was probably itching to be let loose.

Will if not Cream then my fave band Yes played as support act to them on their final London performance.

kiteless

12,556 posts

233 months

Friday 21st February 2014
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Personally, I think Cream suffered from their own sense of self-importance in as much as they were all - individually - the subject of huge respect from their peers.

As a result of that, we have a catalogue of work that is - for the time - technically excellent but musically bereft. Examples?

Sunshine Of Your Love : Simple riff with no redeeming features, and a solo that mimics Blue Moon.
Politician : Complex tune, that is difficult to listen to unless you like odd time signatures and "outside" notes
Born Under a Bad Sign : Not necessarily better than the Albert King original
Crossroads : A Robert Johnson cover with extended guitar / bass / drum indulgences
Pressed Rat & Warthog : confused

I'm So Glad ( wink ) I have Wheels of Fire and Goodbye on vinyl, but they weren't a well-rounded group IMO.

EskimoArapaho

5,135 posts

164 months

Friday 21st February 2014
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Worth it for one song: White Room.


countachman

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1,290 posts

240 months

Friday 21st February 2014
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Ok help me here I've just listened to the whole LP and loved it!

Maybe because it's been 30 years since I last played it.

Tom_C76

1,923 posts

217 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
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Crossroads is a great piece of guitar work, and so far removed from the Robert Johnson that it's barely a cover. Sunshine is a classic rock tune, played it in a jam session last night. Always goes down well. White Room is odd but good, and Badge becomes an epic once Clapton lets loose on the live versions. Plus George Harrison played rhythm.

All in, a great band, and for me not letting Baker go too far into jazz experimentation was a good thing.

Fishtigua

9,786 posts

224 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
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Bugger you lot, guess who's going on a live youTube plunder.

Thanks, I'll see you Sunday.

I know EC from a few years ago through work, seems a nice bloke.

MGJohn

10,203 posts

212 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
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Sold both my Cream LPs on ebay a few years back ~ maybe ten. Both on the original label bought around 1967.

My favourite tracks being Sunshine and I'm so glad.

The two LPs made good money. Went to an enthusiast in California. Would make better money now I suspect.

K12beano

20,854 posts

304 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
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EskimoArapaho said:
Worth it for one song: White Room.
yes


Oooo - but then there's always "Tales of Brave Ulysses" .....


.... and "Strange Brew"




.... and "SWALBR"




Hey! What's wrong with you lot - there's loads of great stuff!

MrOnTheRopes

1,667 posts

275 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
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Anyone For Tennis?

I much prefer the live 2005 gigs than the live 60s gigs.

caziques

2,842 posts

197 months

Sunday 23rd February 2014
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Disraeli Gears, still one of my favourite LPs.

Mothers Lament is a bit off the wall, but everything else has stood the test of time very well.

Halmyre

12,560 posts

168 months

Monday 24th February 2014
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gazza285 said:
I was never impressed by the lyrics or the delivery of them. I think they were too restrained as well, I get the impression that Ginger Baker wanted to let loose a lot more but didn't get the chance. The whole was less than the sum of the parts, which is why they didn't last. My own opinion, of course.
I thought the reason they didn't last was that, if they hadn't split up, either Bruce or Baker would have ended up dead by the other's hand. In an interview, Bruce said something along the lines of "he's my best mate and I love him, but we just can't play on stage together". Given that Bruce seems quite a level-headed bloke and Baker seems like an unhinged nutcase, I'm not really sure where the blame lies...

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 24th February 2014
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Cream rule. They are, quite literally, far out.

WinkleHoff

793 posts

264 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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Go and listen to Live Cream Vol 1. This is what Cream were all about. Check out the live version of NSU, its mind blowing. Cream were always a live band, Robert Stigwood drove them in to the ground touring, the albums were shoe in's in the diary it would appear. The studio stuff sounds a little sterile in comparison.

garycat

5,364 posts

239 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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I keep meaning to watch this to see just how unhinged Mr Baker is

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1931388/

countachman

Original Poster:

1,290 posts

240 months

Friday 14th March 2014
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Im interested in the movie need a cheap copy at some point. Think im going to look out for live Cream 1 also from your recomendation.