tangerine dream..spare tickets?...great band..fave gig..LP?
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I was watching a thing about Ian Rankin, he mentioned that he writes while listening to TD and I thought I'd have a listen. First thing that struck me is that it's virtually impossible to find cheap TD albums - HMV had a few CDs, but all well over a tenner. As I was only vaguely familiar with what they did (knew it was electronic, but no more than that) I figured I'd keep looking, finally found some kind of compilation.
Still not sure whether I like them all that much, but might need a few more listens. I guess one of the issues with very electronic stuff like this (as opposed to generic rock with keyboards) is that it's probably quite easy to over-use the sequencers, and might even be impossible to play some tracks without doing so.
Still not sure whether I like them all that much, but might need a few more listens. I guess one of the issues with very electronic stuff like this (as opposed to generic rock with keyboards) is that it's probably quite easy to over-use the sequencers, and might even be impossible to play some tracks without doing so.
Seeker UK said:
Ipswich in '86 was the best gig I went to.
Would I go and see them now? No. They mime.
Do they really? Someone tell me they actually play instruments. I pay to watch mucians not a recording...otherwise no point spending £100 On a night out!Would I go and see them now? No. They mime.
If I go I want big synths..flashing lights...sequencers. .to take me away into TD world.
I listen to old LPs in a darkened room the live ones are good. Other worldly places and a complete escape is why I relax to them.
droopsnoot said:
I was watching a thing about Ian Rankin, he mentioned that he writes while listening to TD and I thought I'd have a listen. First thing that struck me is that it's virtually impossible to find cheap TD albums - HMV had a few CDs, but all well over a tenner. As I was only vaguely familiar with what they did (knew it was electronic, but no more than that) I figured I'd keep looking, finally found some kind of compilation.
Still not sure whether I like them all that much, but might need a few more listens. I guess one of the issues with very electronic stuff like this (as opposed to generic rock with keyboards) is that it's probably quite easy to over-use the sequencers, and might even be impossible to play some tracks without doing so.
The TD website has some streaming stuff you can listen to to get an idea. otherwise Might I suggest you begin with:Still not sure whether I like them all that much, but might need a few more listens. I guess one of the issues with very electronic stuff like this (as opposed to generic rock with keyboards) is that it's probably quite easy to over-use the sequencers, and might even be impossible to play some tracks without doing so.
Rubycon
Tangram
Force Majeure
All early ish albums that form a good basis for developing a TD taste
countachman said:
Do they really? Someone tell me they actually play instruments. I pay to watch mucians not a recording...otherwise no point spending £100 On a night out!
If I go I want big synths..flashing lights...sequencers. .to take me away into TD world.
I listen to old LPs in a darkened room the live ones are good. Other worldly places and a complete escape is why I relax to them.
I'm sorry to tell you this but since about 1995, all of the keyboards are mimed to. The only live musicians are the guitarist, percussionist and if she's there, saxophonist. I saw them suffer BSOD on their sequencers at Shepherd's Bush and nothing went wrong.If I go I want big synths..flashing lights...sequencers. .to take me away into TD world.
I listen to old LPs in a darkened room the live ones are good. Other worldly places and a complete escape is why I relax to them.
If you want big sequencers and the classic sound of TD live, I suggest you look elsewhere and keep an eye out for live performances from Redshift, Free System Project or Node. Also, the awakenings series of gigs are worth a punt.
http://www.awakenings-em.co.uk/burton.htm
Thank you seeker I have looked at the site. Did not see those bands but ill look more, shame TD dont play as in the past!
Im not going to shell out for a ticket and travel, say £100 for a two hr show if its not like the TD I know and listen too.
If any other fan can say otherwise im open to a different view of the band nowadays.
If these other musicians are close and play similar music then I look forward to a good evening out.
Im not going to shell out for a ticket and travel, say £100 for a two hr show if its not like the TD I know and listen too.
If any other fan can say otherwise im open to a different view of the band nowadays.
If these other musicians are close and play similar music then I look forward to a good evening out.
countachman said:
Thank you seeker I have looked at the site. Did not see those bands but ill look more, shame TD dont play as in the past!
Im not going to shell out for a ticket and travel, say £100 for a two hr show if its not like the TD I know and listen too.
If any other fan can say otherwise im open to a different view of the band nowadays.
If these other musicians are close and play similar music then I look forward to a good evening out.
Radio Massacre International are playing the all-dayer on 11th Oct.Im not going to shell out for a ticket and travel, say £100 for a two hr show if its not like the TD I know and listen too.
If any other fan can say otherwise im open to a different view of the band nowadays.
If these other musicians are close and play similar music then I look forward to a good evening out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nxa-e3x9WFU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IVOFR9Fwjw
Or on 26th April, Magnetron
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGF2lfVNI30
countachman said:
Thank you for all the links I can see that all the key players in this music scene play there.
Any you know play in London Surrey Sussex or Kent?
Since the demise of the Hampshire Jam at Liphook, there's limited places it happens in the UK - you have to travel to Holland or Germany now.Any you know play in London Surrey Sussex or Kent?
Modern TD is just Edgar Froese using the old band name to pull in the punters, it's heartbreaking to watch, he looks very frail now and doesn't really move at all. He has 6 or 7 session musicians who mime along to provide something to look at. TD were my favourite band ever their music was sublime and the concerts were almost a religious experience. But after the split in '87 it's just been a bit sad, releasing endless albums per year, often multiple releases at the same time. Sometimes the same track appears on different albums with different names as if Ed can't even remember what's what. I saw them a few times over the last 20 years and then decided that it just wasn't for me any more, but he still has the core faithful that turn up every time wondering if it might be the last one.
The old stuff from about 1975 to 1985 was mostly wonderful, Stratosfear, Tangram, Logos etc, there was just nothing like them.
The old stuff from about 1975 to 1985 was mostly wonderful, Stratosfear, Tangram, Logos etc, there was just nothing like them.
countachman said:
Thank you both it does seem they are not what I had hoped they would be nowadays.
I will stick to a hifi turned up in a darkenes room with Ricochet, Encore and more enveloping me in the old TD world. D
This is what you'd get if you went: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj-L-CGg5KwI will stick to a hifi turned up in a darkenes room with Ricochet, Encore and more enveloping me in the old TD world. D
Seeker UK said:
I saw them suffer BSOD on their sequencers at Shepherd's Bush and nothing went wrong.
I have a feeling I was at the same gig - June 2005? I enjoyed that one, they "played" a lot of the older stuff. Overall I agree with you though, there is no comparison to what they were doing in the 70s and 80s. Glad that I finally managed to get to a Hampshire Jam a few years ago (the last one, as it happened).Quite possibly one of the best theme tunes known to man..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCItnKrXvMM
..and not a bad series by 80's standards either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCItnKrXvMM
..and not a bad series by 80's standards either.
I'm a huge TD fan, but the stuff since the early 90s with just Edgar and his son simply aren't in the same league. There hasn't been a good album since Melrose, IMHO, everything afterwards has sounded like incidental/soundtrack music rather than music tracks in their own right. The TMI years stuff is something I'd have on in the background, whereas everything before that is something I'd actively listen to.
Jerome quit working with his Dad about a decade ago, apparently there was a fall out over the music they were making.
As much as I thought the period where he was working with Ed was generally quite weak, it really tanked after he left!
Ed has this chap called Thorsten Quaeschning who is a good musician but works for a band called Picture Palace Music, both bands sound the same now. He seems to write most of the songs, must just submit them to Ed for approval. There are 3 girls and a guitarist who appear on stage with them to give something to look at but they contribute very little if at all to the music.
Incidentally Jerome set up a band with Johannes Schmoelling of classic 80's TD fame called LOOM, the music they've written together is generally quite weak but the production quality is miles better than any Ed has done in 25 years, they've done a handful of gigs which are a little more interesting as they're more the oldschool type TD affair without Franke's epic sequencer-driven rhythm section. But it is a lot more performance led with actual playing and they dip into the classic TD back catalogue a lot. There's talk of them doing some UK dates this year, I think they'd be worth a punt.
But if you're stuck for that classic TD sound there's always: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FR6OBELUXU
As much as I thought the period where he was working with Ed was generally quite weak, it really tanked after he left!
Ed has this chap called Thorsten Quaeschning who is a good musician but works for a band called Picture Palace Music, both bands sound the same now. He seems to write most of the songs, must just submit them to Ed for approval. There are 3 girls and a guitarist who appear on stage with them to give something to look at but they contribute very little if at all to the music.
Incidentally Jerome set up a band with Johannes Schmoelling of classic 80's TD fame called LOOM, the music they've written together is generally quite weak but the production quality is miles better than any Ed has done in 25 years, they've done a handful of gigs which are a little more interesting as they're more the oldschool type TD affair without Franke's epic sequencer-driven rhythm section. But it is a lot more performance led with actual playing and they dip into the classic TD back catalogue a lot. There's talk of them doing some UK dates this year, I think they'd be worth a punt.
But if you're stuck for that classic TD sound there's always: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FR6OBELUXU
qube_TA said:
Jerome quit working with his Dad about a decade ago, apparently there was a fall out over the music they were making.
As much as I thought the period where he was working with Ed was generally quite weak, it really tanked after he left!
Ed has this chap called Thorsten Quaeschning who is a good musician but works for a band called Picture Palace Music, both bands sound the same now. He seems to write most of the songs, must just submit them to Ed for approval. There are 3 girls and a guitarist who appear on stage with them to give something to look at but they contribute very little if at all to the music.
Incidentally Jerome set up a band with Johannes Schmoelling of classic 80's TD fame called LOOM, the music they've written together is generally quite weak but the production quality is miles better than any Ed has done in 25 years, they've done a handful of gigs which are a little more interesting as they're more the oldschool type TD affair without Franke's epic sequencer-driven rhythm section. But it is a lot more performance led with actual playing and they dip into the classic TD back catalogue a lot. There's talk of them doing some UK dates this year, I think they'd be worth a punt.
But if you're stuck for that classic TD sound there's always: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FR6OBELUXU
Yes yes yes..great link thats what I like thank you. Thats the Dream gig I want to go to. Very very good TD tribute....sounds like actually better than the real gig?
I shall search more info on gigs. Happier now :-).
As much as I thought the period where he was working with Ed was generally quite weak, it really tanked after he left!
Ed has this chap called Thorsten Quaeschning who is a good musician but works for a band called Picture Palace Music, both bands sound the same now. He seems to write most of the songs, must just submit them to Ed for approval. There are 3 girls and a guitarist who appear on stage with them to give something to look at but they contribute very little if at all to the music.
Incidentally Jerome set up a band with Johannes Schmoelling of classic 80's TD fame called LOOM, the music they've written together is generally quite weak but the production quality is miles better than any Ed has done in 25 years, they've done a handful of gigs which are a little more interesting as they're more the oldschool type TD affair without Franke's epic sequencer-driven rhythm section. But it is a lot more performance led with actual playing and they dip into the classic TD back catalogue a lot. There's talk of them doing some UK dates this year, I think they'd be worth a punt.
But if you're stuck for that classic TD sound there's always: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FR6OBELUXU
Yes yes yes..great link thats what I like thank you. Thats the Dream gig I want to go to. Very very good TD tribute....sounds like actually better than the real gig?
I shall search more info on gigs. Happier now :-).
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