Recommend me a small valve amp please...
Recommend me a small valve amp please...
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Bum Debris

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216 months

Monday 21st March 2016
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I'm after my first valve amp. Only want a small one for bedroom rockstar-dom.

This one comes quite highly rated, has anyone else got any recommendations please? Ideally no more than £300.

http://www.gak.co.uk/en/vox-ac4-c1-12-combo/100431...

TIA.

Tom_C76

1,923 posts

217 months

Monday 21st March 2016
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Laney Cub 12R. Cracking bedroom amp and can handle small gigs too. Got a mate selling one for £200 if you're interested.

Monty Python

4,813 posts

226 months

Monday 21st March 2016
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Blackstar HT-5R/Core Stereo 20 and Orange CR60C are worth a listen.

rsbmw

3,466 posts

134 months

Monday 21st March 2016
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Can't beat the Blackstar, but I would take a look at the HT1 as well as the HT5R. Can be had second hand for about £100 and sounds great at bedroom volumes. Same reverb as the HT5R, and will also drive a cab.

edit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU--ptoCAts

Edited by rsbmw on Monday 21st March 11:43

Bum Debris

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216 months

Monday 21st March 2016
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With regards to the Blackstar (and please don't hate me) will I be able to recreate an Oasis type sound with that?

Monty Python

4,813 posts

226 months

Monday 21st March 2016
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Bum Debris said:
With regards to the Blackstar (and please don't hate me) will I be able to recreate an Oasis type sound with that?
If you mean the sound Noel gets then it's not easy - he has a habit of chopping and changing. His main amp appears to be a Marshall JCM-900 with a 1960 cabinet, but he also uses quite a lot off effects pedals (compressor, overdrive, tube screamer, delay) - and a Les Paul guitar.


SWoll

22,758 posts

287 months

Monday 21st March 2016
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When you're so specific about the sound you want to achieve is a valve amp the way to go?

I only ask as I've recently bought a Vox VT20X for playing at home. The software that comes with it allows you to very quickly load up great Oasis tone in seconds (Marshall 59 amp, boss delay, Ibanez tubescreamer) and is hugely tweakable. All for the princely sum of £149.


Bum Debris

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216 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2016
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SWoll said:
When you're so specific about the sound you want to achieve is a valve amp the way to go?

I only ask as I've recently bought a Vox VT20X for playing at home. The software that comes with it allows you to very quickly load up great Oasis tone in seconds (Marshall 59 amp, boss delay, Ibanez tubescreamer) and is hugely tweakable. All for the princely sum of £149.
I had a transistor amplifier a few years ago and it sounded rubbish. I did a bit of research on line last week and the general consensus is valve amps sound infinitely better. That's the main reason I was looking for a valve amp.

Monty Python

4,813 posts

226 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2016
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Bum Debris said:
I had a transistor amplifier a few years ago and it sounded rubbish. I did a bit of research on line last week and the general consensus is valve amps sound infinitely better. That's the main reason I was looking for a valve amp.
Valve amps sound different, not better. I've heard some solid-state amps that sound really good - the Roland JC-120 is one example.

At the end of the day, buy something you like the sound of.

Tom_C76

1,923 posts

217 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2016
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You can get some valve amps that only do one thing, but do it really well. Other valve amps do more things almost as well. But modern solid state (transistor) gear includes things like Kemper modelling amps at best part of £2k, so don't dismiss modelling out of hand.

That said, I love my valve amps. It's nice to know that I get the sound I want with all the knobs turned to 10...

SWoll

22,758 posts

287 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2016
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Bum Debris said:
SWoll said:
When you're so specific about the sound you want to achieve is a valve amp the way to go?

I only ask as I've recently bought a Vox VT20X for playing at home. The software that comes with it allows you to very quickly load up great Oasis tone in seconds (Marshall 59 amp, boss delay, Ibanez tubescreamer) and is hugely tweakable. All for the princely sum of £149.
I had a transistor amplifier a few years ago and it sounded rubbish. I did a bit of research on line last week and the general consensus is valve amps sound infinitely better. That's the main reason I was looking for a valve amp.
As with everything tech evolves very quickly and there are good and bad examples (especially in the SS/modelling market). The valve v SS debate will always rage on but I think 'infinitely better' is rather over egging it.

I don't doubt that the real amps and pedals that the Vox models would sound better but on the other hand the cost of buying them all would be rather restrictive even for a simple setup like the Marshall, delay and tubescreamer.

As always, go and audition a few if you can and make your own mind up about whether the extra cost and reduced versatility of a tube amp are for you. I'm really pleased with my Vox having tried a lot of small amps, especially running it at bedroom levels.

Dave2P

823 posts

209 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2016
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Came in here to post the exact same question... smile

Found the answers above v.helpful, and interested to see where the OP's thoughts have got to?

For me, I need something compact enough to sit in the lounge looking innocent for the sake of domestic bliss so...

I think it's going to be the Blackstar HT-1R, probably with a Maxon OD808 to give "foot-switchable" overdrive (AFAICS the HT1 can't use a foot switch) and that screamer sound.

Anyone got that or a v. similar setup?


Djr1

145 posts

126 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2016
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The small Blackstar stuff sounds great - I've tried an HT5 and an HT1, and liked both a lot. The HT-5 in particular was a lot more flexible than you'd think. I'm using an HT-40 at the moment as an everyday amp, but am sorely tempted by an HT-5 for home use.

dojo

741 posts

164 months

Thursday 24th March 2016
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I run an epiphone valve Junior for home and rehearsals...
I love it, sounds awesome, bit of a one trick pony but I stick a pretty comprehensive board at the front end and it means when I play bigger gigs it's an easy transition because I just use the same board.

BorkFactor

7,278 posts

187 months

Thursday 24th March 2016
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I would recommend looking at the Vox AC10, absolutely brilliant little amp and better than the AC4 IMO.

Blackstar are good too, depends what sort of tone you are after really. They do "modern" tones really well but I found my HT60 struggled a bit with the more vintage stuff.

Bum Debris

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8,992 posts

216 months

Thursday 24th March 2016
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Well I've just watched some review videos of the Vox AC10, and it sounds fantastic.

It's £375 though...

Dave2P

823 posts

209 months

Thursday 31st March 2016
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Thought I'd report back... I went with the Blackstar HT-1R, and *very* happy with it.

I'm still learning what it can do but it does deliver a great range of classic sounds for such a small amp (with so few controls compared to the big boys). Lovely, crisp and clear tones when clean with a silky smooth but very punchy "crunch" coming in as you wind the gain up. The clarity, even when well into overdrive, really brings out the difference in tones from the various pickup combinations.

Well-built and nicely finished too, with a top quality feel to the buttons and switches (with the possible, very minor, exception of the "push-in" overdrive selector).

Find one to demo with your own guitar if you're after a very specific sound, but I love it. I've heard the little Vox too, and that sounds nice so just down to which you prefer...

conkerman

3,513 posts

164 months

Thursday 31st March 2016
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Fender super Champ.

Modelling valve amp, looks pretty interesting.