David Bowie - Baby Doll - Gentlemen still prefer Blondes
David Bowie - Baby Doll - Gentlemen still prefer Blondes
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andy67b

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145 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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Hi, I've just bought this LP, I can't seem to find anything out about it online. The LP doesn't have anything wrote on the vinyl its self and just a plain white label. The closest I can find online is this one

https://www.discogs.com/David-Bowie-Baby-Doll-Gent...

This one is from the label Old Glory Records. Could anybody out there shed any light my LP?
Thanks in advance

paulmakin

739 posts

170 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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it's an unofficial compilation of early singles, out-takes, demo's etc.

it was "issued" mid-late 70's and resurfaced with an alternative title but right here and now I can't remember what that was !!

referencing my own copy (your running order may differ !!):

Tracks 1-4 are very early Decca/Deram singles or EP's, I think as DB and the lower 3rd. Now available as an official release but can't remember it's name. the original 45s are still around as well and not expensive.

"Supermen" is a prodromal version of TMWSTW track, also on "Revelations"

"Velvet Goldmine" languished until plonked on the B side of the 1975 Space Oddity re-issue. A 3 track maxi single with "Changes" providing the filler (I quite like "Velvet", always have - has a feel of the "Just a Gigolo" stuff)

"Hang onto Yourself" and "Man in the Middle" are UK singles under the pseudonym Arnold Corns, DB's pet project at the time. MitM was to be the B side of the 2nd Corn's single ("Looking for a Friend") but by the time it was cut DB realised the futility of the project and got stuck into the new one - TRaFoZSaTSFM (clearly, one of his better decisions). MitM resurfaces in the "1980 Floorshow" and eventually gravitated towards "You Didn't Hear it From Me" (aka "Dodo") as potentials for Diamond Dog tracks. Both failed to make the cut despite their obvious lyrical/subject matter fit. "Looking for a Friend" was officially recorded during the Ziggy sessions but sunk without trace.

"John" needs no introduction - alternative version of the UK single, which itself was issued in two marginally different versions without anyone realising. Just some mixing differences really.

"Amsterdam" had been in the stage set for decades and many studio versions exist, as well as this one. Eventually released on the B side of "Sorrow" in 1973. A translation of Jaques Brel's "Port of Amsterdam" and covered by many others

"Round and Round" is an out-take but a more polished version graces the B side of "Drive in Saturday". Originally a Chuck Berry single, albeit very unknown

I haven't played it but I think "Rebel Rebel" is the US single release version

"Panic in Detroit" is from the Aladdin Sane/Diamond Dogs/Plastic Soul tour of the US, 74-75

A lot of this stuff has now been officially released - compilations like "Bowie at the Beeb" have all the above and many others but sometimes it's just nice to have the illicit stuff

Paul



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paulmakin

739 posts

170 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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Oh dear, I've just recalled the alternative title:

"Hard Meat and Limp Hits"

as you were

Paul

andy67b

Original Poster:

61 posts

145 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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paulmakin said:
it's an unofficial compilation of early singles, out-takes, demo's etc.

it was "issued" mid-late 70's and resurfaced with an alternative title but right here and now I can't remember what that was !!

referencing my own copy (your running order may differ !!):

Tracks 1-4 are very early Decca/Deram singles or EP's, I think as DB and the lower 3rd. Now available as an official release but can't remember it's name. the original 45s are still around as well and not expensive.

"Supermen" is a prodromal version of TMWSTW track, also on "Revelations"

"Velvet Goldmine" languished until plonked on the B side of the 1975 Space Oddity re-issue. A 3 track maxi single with "Changes" providing the filler (I quite like "Velvet", always have - has a feel of the "Just a Gigolo" stuff)

"Hang onto Yourself" and "Man in the Middle" are UK singles under the pseudonym Arnold Corns, DB's pet project at the time. MitM was to be the B side of the 2nd Corn's single ("Looking for a Friend") but by the time it was cut DB realised the futility of the project and got stuck into the new one - TRaFoZSaTSFM (clearly, one of his better decisions). MitM resurfaces in the "1980 Floorshow" and eventually gravitated towards "You Didn't Hear it From Me" (aka "Dodo") as potentials for Diamond Dog tracks. Both failed to make the cut despite their obvious lyrical/subject matter fit. "Looking for a Friend" was officially recorded during the Ziggy sessions but sunk without trace.

"John" needs no introduction - alternative version of the UK single, which itself was issued in two marginally different versions without anyone realising. Just some mixing differences really.

"Amsterdam" had been in the stage set for decades and many studio versions exist, as well as this one. Eventually released on the B side of "Sorrow" in 1973. A translation of Jaques Brel's "Port of Amsterdam" and covered by many others

"Round and Round" is an out-take but a more polished version graces the B side of "Drive in Saturday". Originally a Chuck Berry single, albeit very unknown

I haven't played it but I think "Rebel Rebel" is the US single release version

"Panic in Detroit" is from the Aladdin Sane/Diamond Dogs/Plastic Soul tour of the US, 74-75

A lot of this stuff has now been officially released - compilations like "Bowie at the Beeb" have all the above and many others but sometimes it's just nice to have the illicit stuff

Paul



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Edited by paulmakin on Wednesday 15th March 20:32


Edited by paulmakin on Wednesday 15th March 20:36
Paul, thanks for in depth reply. I've still not had the opportunity to play the LP yet, so not been able to check the running order yet. Thanks once again for your speedy reply.

Andy