Help to understand a song please?
Help to understand a song please?
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ben5575

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7,422 posts

250 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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I am currently ever so slightly obsessed with Kat Edmonson's cover/arrangement of the classic 'Summertime'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-F8KxXyV7g

As a none drummer/casual listener/have a basic understanding of music, I'd really like to understand how this is all put together please.

I can see pentatonic scale in it ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne6tB2KiZuk ) but I'd like to understand how the beat/timing works between the voice/piano/percussion/trumpet.

It's one of those tracks that seems completely at odds with itself, but comes together beautifully but I have no idea how or why. Can a musician help me to understand what is going on please? I'm sure it's music appreciation 101, but I can't get my head around it.

If nothing else, it's an under appreciated track worth listening too smile

colin_p

4,503 posts

241 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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Frank7

6,619 posts

116 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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colin_p said:
Niiiicce!

ben5575

Original Poster:

7,422 posts

250 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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bds, the lot of you. wink

Simes205

5,017 posts

257 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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cross rhythmic.
Piano playing triplet crotchet chords over a straight 4/4 feel.
Trombone plays the solo.
I guess later it becomes polyrhythmic.

You could analyse it as two different metres at playing once.

Edited by Simes205 on Thursday 25th April 23:50

Simes205

5,017 posts

257 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Giving you a syncopated feel.
6 against / over 4.

stuartmmcfc

8,775 posts

221 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Early math rock innit.

Simes205

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257 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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stuartmmcfc said:
Early math rock innit.
Ha!
I think that concept was invented sometime ago, check John Cage.

ben5575

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7,422 posts

250 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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That is great thanks for the help. So it catches up with itself at the end of every 3rd bar then?

cherryowen

12,550 posts

233 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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It's got a 3 / 4 waltz feel with the rhythm

Whatever

I've never been that keen on the tune, but that version is fantastic!

I need to work out the chords to it now!


cherryowen

12,550 posts

233 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Seems to be in Ab, but neither major or minor.

I get the first chord as Ab5 (no 3rd), followed by F5 (no third), then E (b5) , back to Eb5 (no third), and back to Ab5.

If I add either a major or minor third to any of the above chords, it doesn't sound right.

Very dark; very clever




thebraketester

15,749 posts

167 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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Bb, Db6, C7, BMaj7.... and keeping Bb as the highest voice.

Cool tune.

Simes205

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257 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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thebraketester said:
Bb, Db6, C7, BMaj7.... and keeping Bb as the highest voice.

Cool tune.
wink

cherryowen

12,550 posts

233 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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I blame the Jameson's distillery for confusing me, and getting my Ab and Bb mixed up!