All along the Watchtower
All along the Watchtower
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Dr Jekyll

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23,820 posts

289 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Binge watched BSG over the weekend and realised I don't understand what the relevant Dylan song ''All along the Watchtower'' is all about. For one thing, you go up and down towers not along them, and reading the lyrics the tower seems peripheral to the narrative, as if the song should be called something like 'the joker and the thief'. Does it actually mean anything?

What relevance it has to Battlestar Galactica is a whole other nerdfest.

anonymous-user

82 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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It was once summed up thus:

“Dylan’s accomplishment here is nothing less than amazing. In the space of a few verses, in a song so spare it could almost be missed as a throw-away, Dylan manages to accomplish all of the following.

Summarizes his own life to date. Given his earlier efforts to make pointed fun of almost everything around him, and his near-fatal motorcycle crash that marked a turning point in his career, it is hard not to see the joker as Dylan himself. He has now learned that life is not a joke, and distinguishes between artists and outsiders who understand the seriousness of life, versus the businessmen and fans who treat his art as simply a marketable commodity.
Identifies the primary issue of our time as one of values. Modern thinkers such as Ken Wilber, with his image of our contemporary “flatland,” in which everything is seen as neutral, and devoid of value, are brought to mind. In earlier songs Dylan talked tirelessly of modern figures misunderstanding the significance of issues such as war, freedom and poverty. Here Dylan stands back from these specific issues and reduces the confrontation to its essential element: human values against the established order.
Propels his theme with a powerful dramatic structure. From a traditional dramatic viewpoint, almost nothing happens in this song: two riders talk to each other while approaching a castle. We’ve hardly got a decent first act, let alone a whole play. Yet by repeatedly hinting at the intensity of a coming confrontation, and by identifying the two opposing forces, Dylan keeps us on the edges of our seats, wondering what will happen next. The effect at the end is comparable to the conclusion of William Butler Yeats’ famous poem, “The Second Coming “And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?” In both cases, there is a perceptible chill creeping up the spine, as the poet leaves his reader to contemplate the inevitability and intensity of the coming confrontation, and its consequences.”

The reference to philosophers and poets is a common thing with Dylan reviews. He was very well read and thought hard about what those who went before were saying.

I have no idea what the connection with BSG is. I thought that was a Ronald Dahl thing........... wink

sociopath

3,433 posts

94 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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I reckon he just wrote it that way because it rhymes.

anonymous-user

82 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Nah, that’s Ed Sheeran.......

wibble cb

4,135 posts

235 months

Wednesday 15th July 2020
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Glad he wrote it, as Jimi Hendrix and U2 both outdid his versions....!

anonymous-user

82 months

Wednesday 15th July 2020
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Except that, as it’s autobiographical, they really couldn’t....... wink

jet_noise

6,056 posts

210 months

Wednesday 15th July 2020
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I thought it was a Hendrix song.
Was a long time till I learnt 'twas a Dylan cover!

wibble cb

4,135 posts

235 months

Wednesday 15th July 2020
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REALIST123 said:
Except that, as it’s autobiographical, they really couldn’t....... wink
Wasn’t referring to the writing, but rather the
performance, but I suspect you knew that...

wink

smn159

15,791 posts

245 months

Wednesday 15th July 2020
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wibble cb said:
Glad he wrote it, as Jimi Hendrix and U2 both outdid his versions....!
Hendrix did a decent job but U2? Nope, not having that.

thebraketester

15,690 posts

166 months

Wednesday 15th July 2020
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jet_noise said:
I thought it was a Hendrix song.
Was a long time till I learnt 'twas a Dylan cover!
I found about 10 seconds ago.... I have thought it was a Hendrix tune for 19 years.... laugh

jet_noise

6,056 posts

210 months

Thursday 16th July 2020
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thebraketester said:
jet_noise said:
I thought it was a Hendrix song.
Was a long time till I learnt 'twas a Dylan cover!
I found about 10 seconds ago.... I have thought it was a Hendrix tune for 19 years.... laugh
hehe

gmaz

5,337 posts

238 months

Thursday 16th July 2020
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wibble cb said:
Glad he wrote it, as Jimi Hendrix and U2 both outdid his versions....!
So did Michael Hedges

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqGHE5GqZ44

Skyedriver

23,119 posts

310 months

Thursday 16th July 2020
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Bob Dylan's version is far better than mine.........

dandarez

13,975 posts

311 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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thebraketester said:
jet_noise said:
I thought it was a Hendrix song.
Was a long time till I learnt 'twas a Dylan cover!
I found about 10 seconds ago.... I have thought it was a Hendrix tune for 19 years.... laugh
Even back in the 60s, unless you were a Dylan nut, everybody believed it was an Hendrix song.

The electric guitar playing just grabbed everyone - Dylan might have written it but his was nothing like in the same vein.

I first saw Hendrix in the very early days (he didn't have his 'tash then) at The Plaza at Newbury in Berkshire in Feb 67 - it was peanuts to get in, under ten bob (50p). Pretty wild. Played Hey Joe (interestingly that's not a Hendrix tune either, big hit in the UK (we had more taste - in the States, The Leaves had recorded it and had a hit). Jimi also played Purple Haze that night at Newbury, only weeks before it was released.
Chas Chandler (bassist with The Animals) managed them, he was a bloody clever bloke at talent spotting.

Last saw Hendrix at the Isle of Wight Festival in Aug 70, just before he died.

As for 'didn't know' I 'did know' but forgotten U2 had recorded it on Rattle and Hum. Bloody awful, like some drunk bloke singing it.
I also knew Michael Hedges did it but I am no fan, at all, of acoustic, I'm an electric guitar fan, full stop.

WJNB

2,637 posts

189 months

Friday 24th July 2020
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Love the moody slow version by Afterhere.

offspring86

729 posts

200 months

Friday 31st July 2020
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Personally, I think Dave Matthews Band did the best version:

https://youtu.be/fOaMQ-R9YGM

Starts at around 3:45.