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anonymous-user

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78 months

Sunday 23rd May 2021
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Ultuous

2,281 posts

215 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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I'm about 10 years our of date but...

anonymous said:
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Yep - you're basically manipulating the digital file on a CD or memory stick... Tempo control is just like on a 1210, but with the advantage that being digital you can (subject to model) alter the pitch range (e.g. a CDJ1000 would allow anything from +/- 100% to 6%, with the latter being lot more accurate) and lock the pitch so the control just becomes about tempo - i.e. no pitch change as you speed it up or down.

You can push a 'record' forward and backwards using the jog dial - the cheaper ones just nudge the track forwards and backwards by moving the dial, the more expensive also have a 'vinyl mode', where you can press on the dial and effectively 'scratch' just like with a record (although to me it's always lacked that 'mechanical' feel you get with vinyl)

anonymous said:
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Basically yes - but again with the added advantage of more digital sophistication (deck can 'auto cue' to the first beat, you can store multiple cue points, move to them instantly and loop them to remix the track live).

anonymous said:
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It used to be the case that you'd just plug the laptop into the mixer as an additional source (just like CDJs or 1210s) and control it seperately (directly from the laptop or by plugging in an additional controller that works like a CDJ)... Quite possible they're somehow integrated now - i.e. the CDJ could 'talk' to the laptop, but this is something I'm out of date on!

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If you can manage 1210s you're best off jumping in and playing with the new hardware - closest analogy I can think of it going from a classic manual to a modern auto - 1210s are in some ways more challenging and 'fun' but the CDJs ultimately more capable (I still have and love both) and a darn site cheaper when it comes to tunes! biggrin

StevieBee

14,862 posts

279 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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The deck is essentially a manual controller for the software that's on your lap top.

So you'd download something like Serato. This accesses the music that you have in your iTunes library or any other music library. You drag the song you want to one of the two 'virtual decks' on screen and do what you want - play, loop, beat match, etc.. You can do all of that using nothing other than your keyboard but isn't ideal for a gig so the decks provide a more tactile means to do this as well as adjust the sound levels and enable you to run a mic through the system. You can cue as you would normally too.

There's way more to it than that (if you want) but that's the general idea.

This is a decent overview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mF7tX7Bogg

The entry level Serato is free so download it and have a play. You can get some decent studio decks for £20 or so just to get a feel for how it all works.

The only downside is that - unless anything has changed over the past two years or so - the software only plays music that you physically own. So you can't access Apple Music or Spotify. You need to buy the track or rip it from a CD. I know one of the platforms was moving to enable stream-based DJing but don't know if this ever happened.



Condi

19,747 posts

195 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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StevieBee said:
The only downside is that - unless anything has changed over the past two years or so - the software only plays music that you physically own. So you can't access Apple Music or Spotify. You need to buy the track or rip it from a CD. I know one of the platforms was moving to enable stream-based DJing but don't know if this ever happened.
Beatport who are the largest DJ/electronic music store have a streaming/membership program whereby you pay £30 (or whatever it is) and have access to their entire library. Useful for being able to change sets between 1 week and the next, but you need an internet connection (although I think you can download a load before going to play them?), and you never own the music, so once your sub ends then you have nothing left.

GCH

4,134 posts

226 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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anonymous said:
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Yes, just drag and drop.

If you want to go down the software route, then you have Traktor or Serato, with Traktor being the better of the two (other opinons are available).
You can use CDJs or turntables to control both.... you did know that instead of buying CDJs to control them you could hook up a pair of technics to them as a controller using timecode records?

zb

3,792 posts

188 months

Monday 8th November 2021
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anonymous said:
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Yeah, plug and play.

Rekordbox is the software controller for the kit, you'll build your library of existing .mp3s, analyse them for bpm (this may take some effort on your behalf to get exactly right), analyse tracks for key, then you're good to go.

There's plenty tutorials on youtube, although i'd recommend this fella to get you going with the basics.

https://www.youtube.com/user/djcarloatendido

Beware updating the software to the most recent version. Pioneer have hobbled it and are trying to get you onto the pay to play model.

Edit: mp4 was not a recognised format.

Edited by zb on Monday 8th November 20:49

nealeh1875

1,161 posts

116 months

Wednesday 10th November 2021
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OP,

Why aren't you using Recordbox ? It is easier than Serato and is built for Pioneer equipment

nealeh1875

1,161 posts

116 months

Wednesday 10th November 2021
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I had this problem before.. You will need to reset your master database on Recordbox ortherwise it will keep losing where the tracks are located.

I have a 4TB external hard drive and all my music is saved to there. Nothing on my laptop. Set the master database as that drive when connected and it will always find your music.

Drag and drop the music into recordbox and watch it analyse. Then playlist/folder them as you wish