Hans
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Graham

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16,378 posts

306 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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Does anyone have any experience of the different hans devices and their differences,

more specifically the difference between the schroth ones and the stand 21 items..


Im probably looking at either the schroth sport 2 or the stand 21 club series, or the stand 21 rs-2

I know the main differences are weight, but do they differ in design and comfort much, they are alllatest generation designs?


Cheers

Graham

andy rob

652 posts

244 months

Thursday 10th January 2013
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I ended up buying the stand 21 one, a bit more expensive than the cheappy scroth, but lots lighter & a lot cheaper than the fancy scroth one.
Hate it getting ready in the car, but once you start the engine you forget it's there

volks al

4,107 posts

236 months

Thursday 10th January 2013
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ditto the stand21 ones, nicer than the basic schroth. CSCC have a group buy going on if your a member.

andy97

4,780 posts

244 months

Thursday 10th January 2013
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volks al said:
CSCC have a group buy going on if your a member.
And it's an awesome deal - well worth being a member for. There's also a members deal on some helmets, too.

volks al

4,107 posts

236 months

Thursday 10th January 2013
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andy97 said:
And it's an awesome deal - well worth being a member for. There's also a members deal on some helmets, too.
Yes great work from hugo and the team, nice to see a race series helping with such a cruical safety device. Just wish I had the funds to race this year with them again.

thunderbelmont

2,982 posts

246 months

Thursday 10th January 2013
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I've had a Schroth one for about nine years now, it's the original spec without the slippy strap, but to be honest, I've not had any issues with it. Like Andy said, once you're in and strapped up, you forget it's there (except in my case I have very limited left/right movement!!)

Must get the update kit for it...

There is the new Simpson device that's supposed to be even lighter. It's recently gained FIA approval too.

woof

8,456 posts

299 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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andy97 said:
volks al said:
CSCC have a group buy going on if your a member.
And it's an awesome deal - well worth being a member for. There's also a members deal on some helmets, too.
what's the discount ? I'm probably driving in the modern classic so makes sense to join now smile

spyderman8

1,748 posts

178 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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Having never tried a HANS before I took the opportunity to test one on Stand21's stand at Autosport yesterday. They're down to £350 inc VAT now so proper affordable. Must say I hardly noticed the 950g (?) weight so I certainly wouldn't bother paying a fortune for a carbon fibre one, plus they're sliding tether as standard. Only thing is I'd need a new helmet as mine doesn't have posts.

BigBlockVette

1 posts

157 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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CSCC are offering their Hans (Stand 21) Devices to members for £225.00 including VAT delivered, plus have demon offer until 31st. January on Hedtec Hans Hemets.

Graham

Original Poster:

16,378 posts

306 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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BigBlockVette said:
CSCC are offering their Hans (Stand 21) Devices to members for £225.00 including VAT delivered, plus have demon offer until 31st. January on Hedtec Hans Hemets.
typically i find this out after i bought the stand 21 one for 350 on friday.... i might do a few cscc races so joining them woould have been worth it..

i was plesantly surprised with the 950g weight i hardly noticed it... another 150 to loose 100g didnt seem necessary.

just need a new helmet to go with it

g

woof

8,456 posts

299 months

Tuesday 15th January 2013
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BigBlockVette said:
CSCC are offering their Hans (Stand 21) Devices to members for £225.00 including VAT delivered, plus have demon offer until 31st. January on Hedtec Hans Hemets.
I was told today that the offer ends tomorrow (16th Jan ) at 5.30pm
Just got my order in




andy97

4,780 posts

244 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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I'm fairly sure that its the HANS offer that ends today, but the Helmet offer is open until 31 Jan.


woof

8,456 posts

299 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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andy97 said:
I'm fairly sure that its the HANS offer that ends today, but the Helmet offer is open until 31 Jan.
Sorry - Hans offer closed today. I believe the Helmet offer is current till the 31st as you mention smile

MarkKo

168 posts

219 months

Sunday 20th January 2013
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Hans device would slow the pitstop down in a CSCC race?Do you still have to get out of the car?

volks al

4,107 posts

236 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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MarkKo said:
Hans device would slow the pitstop down in a CSCC race?Do you still have to get out of the car?
You do, and that was always a faff, making sure you got the belts back over the HANS properly, my concern being ill refitting of it in a rush...

andy97

4,780 posts

244 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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MarkKo said:
Hans device would slow the pitstop down in a CSCC race?Do you still have to get out of the car?
Yes you do. The CSCC recently published a list of pit stop times from the 2012 season and the fastest pit stop pair in Tin Tops both used HANS devices and won races; they accomplished the pit stop in something like 41 seconds. Didn't seem to slow them down much. Others achieved broadly similar times whilst wearing Hans devices too.

It takes practice but it can be done.


Dave Brand

941 posts

290 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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volks al said:
You do, and that was always a faff, making sure you got the belts back over the HANS properly, my concern being ill refitting of it in a rush...
A few seconds on a pit stop . . . six months in a neck brace. Sounds like a reasonable trade-off to me, but then I'm not a racer!

MarkKo

168 posts

219 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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Yup,i did do a few pitstops with the CSCC in 2010!When you are racing and its very close its such a shame to lose a race because someone has a easier to get out of car with smaller door bars(This happened to me at Donnington if i remember),when you are in a position like this and you are getting back in a car and rushing a HANS would make that tricky i think.Belting up is something i take alot of time up over now and not something i would want to rush to be honest,will this ever be rethought??

Graham

Original Poster:

16,378 posts

306 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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Probably different if its just you and another driver, but with 2 crew to help the driver get in, out and belted up ( providing the driver doesn't try and help get belted in !!) we found no difference in time between hans and no hans.

that was in FIA app k spec MGB's

G

Hybrids

842 posts

265 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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In the handfull of CSCC Tin Top races I have done I have worn a HANS.
I was fortunate to have 2 helpers on every occasion, I seem to recall at Anglesey in 2011 we had one of the quickest pitstops.