Dual purpose helmet?
Discussion
Probably stupid question but........
Can one purchase a crash helmet that still retains a high enough standard to race at FIA App K level but at the same time is suitable for riding a motorcycle on the road? My last helmet cost me £700+ and considering it only gets used 2-3 times per year seems a waste of money. I ride my bike most weekends but the visibility it crap and thus dangerous with the car helmet, not to mention possiblly illegal(?). I know it stands more chance of getting dinged and therefore written off but just askin'!
Can one purchase a crash helmet that still retains a high enough standard to race at FIA App K level but at the same time is suitable for riding a motorcycle on the road? My last helmet cost me £700+ and considering it only gets used 2-3 times per year seems a waste of money. I ride my bike most weekends but the visibility it crap and thus dangerous with the car helmet, not to mention possiblly illegal(?). I know it stands more chance of getting dinged and therefore written off but just askin'!
I believe so. As you say, the sight aperture in the front is a determining factor in your periferal vision but this varies with helmet fit and design, so try a few out.
There are different testing procedures for race helmets and motorcycle helmets but broadly speaking the design and construction are very simular so I have no doubt that a race helmet can provide adequate protection on the road.
There are different testing procedures for race helmets and motorcycle helmets but broadly speaking the design and construction are very simular so I have no doubt that a race helmet can provide adequate protection on the road.
I dont think so.
In the old days when the BS standard where in force, then yes. But the designs have gone in a different direction. With race helmets requiring fire safety as the priority, & bike helmets landing on your head as the priority. Hence the different applications have different standards.
My race helmet has a warning sticker on it barring bike use.
In the old days when the BS standard where in force, then yes. But the designs have gone in a different direction. With race helmets requiring fire safety as the priority, & bike helmets landing on your head as the priority. Hence the different applications have different standards.
My race helmet has a warning sticker on it barring bike use.
Bike helmets are not accepted for four wheel motorsport use - don't ask me to justify it.
See: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
But you can wear almost anything on your bonce and be legal on the road, so get an helmet that has the right sticker on, an MSA one. Check the acceptable standards in the Blue Book. If it is of the right standard, you can even get a sticker added for a small fee by the scrutineers at your next race.
John
See: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
But you can wear almost anything on your bonce and be legal on the road, so get an helmet that has the right sticker on, an MSA one. Check the acceptable standards in the Blue Book. If it is of the right standard, you can even get a sticker added for a small fee by the scrutineers at your next race.
John
https://www.gov.uk/motorcycle-helmet-law
Says,
"All helmets sold in the UK must either:
meet British Standard BS 6658:1985 and carry the BSI Kitemark
meet UNECE Regulation 22.05
meet a European Economic Area member standard offering at least the same safety and protection as BS 6658:1985, and carry a mark equivalent to the BSI Kitemark."
This webpage compares the Snell and BSI standards, and shows that the impact test for BSI is more severe.
http://www.smf.org/docs/articles/mcomp2.html
But that uses the M2005 standards. This Snell site
http://snellm2010.org/testingM2010.html
is about the higher M2010 stadard, and claims that. "in Europe motorcyclists have an option to wear ECE22-05/M2010 helmets."
John
Says,
"All helmets sold in the UK must either:
meet British Standard BS 6658:1985 and carry the BSI Kitemark
meet UNECE Regulation 22.05
meet a European Economic Area member standard offering at least the same safety and protection as BS 6658:1985, and carry a mark equivalent to the BSI Kitemark."
This webpage compares the Snell and BSI standards, and shows that the impact test for BSI is more severe.
http://www.smf.org/docs/articles/mcomp2.html
But that uses the M2005 standards. This Snell site
http://snellm2010.org/testingM2010.html
is about the higher M2010 stadard, and claims that. "in Europe motorcyclists have an option to wear ECE22-05/M2010 helmets."
John
Yes, and our race helmets are to SA 2005/2010 which is different again! They are not accepted as "safety equipment" because they're not in that document you quoted, John, hence they attract VAT.
Unless you go kart racing and can squeeze into a kids' CMR helmet which is a Snell helmet but doesn't attract VAT because it's specifically designed for children. But you can't wear that car racing because it's not an SA rated helmet (no F/R lining etc).
Confused? Yup!
Unless you go kart racing and can squeeze into a kids' CMR helmet which is a Snell helmet but doesn't attract VAT because it's specifically designed for children. But you can't wear that car racing because it's not an SA rated helmet (no F/R lining etc).
Confused? Yup!
Apart from anything else Motorsport helmets are designed with a very small visor apature because the head postion when driving a car is pretty fixed. Wearing a Motorsport helmet on a bike would cause all sorts of issues with visibility depending on the riding position you adopted.
Car helmets are designed for cars, bike helmets are designed for bikes.....best have two helmets.
Car helmets are designed for cars, bike helmets are designed for bikes.....best have two helmets.
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