Stowing luggage/kit in a stripped car
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Hello all,
Ok, this maybe one of the most mundane posts ever on the forum but I have a question for those with stripped out cars:
How do you stow all of your kit and luggage?
My car is nearing completion and being a 2 door coupe with a hatch there is nothing at all from stopping things flying around in the back.
Also the kind of rallying I do (HERO / CRA events, long distance EU rallies) means that I am ALWAYS carrying everything with me from luggage to tools to spares etc.
For the majority of my kit I am going to re-task an old aluminium flight case I have which can be lashed down onto the rear boot bed.
Does anyone have any interesting ideas or products that they use?
This is what I'm dealing with. My kit weighs between 35-45kg in total.
There will be a rear half cage from the B-Pillar back so I can use that as lashing points. In the boot area there are depressions either side of the fuel tank. Perhaps putting some kind of 'lid' on these would be an option. Could stick a fair bit in those two pods and it would keep the weight down nice and low.
Ok, this maybe one of the most mundane posts ever on the forum but I have a question for those with stripped out cars:
How do you stow all of your kit and luggage?
My car is nearing completion and being a 2 door coupe with a hatch there is nothing at all from stopping things flying around in the back.
Also the kind of rallying I do (HERO / CRA events, long distance EU rallies) means that I am ALWAYS carrying everything with me from luggage to tools to spares etc.
For the majority of my kit I am going to re-task an old aluminium flight case I have which can be lashed down onto the rear boot bed.
Does anyone have any interesting ideas or products that they use?
This is what I'm dealing with. My kit weighs between 35-45kg in total.
There will be a rear half cage from the B-Pillar back so I can use that as lashing points. In the boot area there are depressions either side of the fuel tank. Perhaps putting some kind of 'lid' on these would be an option. Could stick a fair bit in those two pods and it would keep the weight down nice and low.
Hi,
it always looks cool to have spare wheels attached in the centre of the "boot" held in place with crossing over straps to eyeleys bolted through the boot floor so that might work for your case.
Sounds a bit princess and the pea but as an ex 944 owner I can tell you that you can really feel the effcts extra weight when you carry luggage in the boot - it seemed to increase roll at the back, I assume because the boot floor is fairly high, so I would bring the case forwards as far as possible to where the rear seats were. In fact, I would go with a cylindrical squashy bag behind each seat.
Actually, carrying luggage made the back loose as you turned in which might be quite useful in the tests.
it always looks cool to have spare wheels attached in the centre of the "boot" held in place with crossing over straps to eyeleys bolted through the boot floor so that might work for your case.
Sounds a bit princess and the pea but as an ex 944 owner I can tell you that you can really feel the effcts extra weight when you carry luggage in the boot - it seemed to increase roll at the back, I assume because the boot floor is fairly high, so I would bring the case forwards as far as possible to where the rear seats were. In fact, I would go with a cylindrical squashy bag behind each seat.
Actually, carrying luggage made the back loose as you turned in which might be quite useful in the tests.
Thanks for the tips - this is where my OCD shows through now...
Once the new suspension is on I have an appointment at my local tip...
They have a formidably accurate weighbridge which is able to measure accurate corner weights as well as the whole car. I've paid them already for their services with a slab of ale.
I've already got my kit weighed out and will be getting it back to as close to 50/50 front/back as poss.
So far it as shed somewhere between 95-105kg. The new Koni kit should be at least another 5kg.
Most of it has been from the back so I'm kind of banking on 40kg of kit plus a full tank of fuel will get it close to neutral as possible.
Will be fun trying whatever the outcome!
Once the new suspension is on I have an appointment at my local tip...
They have a formidably accurate weighbridge which is able to measure accurate corner weights as well as the whole car. I've paid them already for their services with a slab of ale.
I've already got my kit weighed out and will be getting it back to as close to 50/50 front/back as poss.
So far it as shed somewhere between 95-105kg. The new Koni kit should be at least another 5kg.
Most of it has been from the back so I'm kind of banking on 40kg of kit plus a full tank of fuel will get it close to neutral as possible.
Will be fun trying whatever the outcome!
benjj said:
Thanks for the tips - this is where my OCD shows through now...
Once the new suspension is on I have an appointment at my local tip...
They have a formidably accurate weighbridge which is able to measure accurate corner weights as well as the whole car. I've paid them already for their services with a slab of ale.
I've already got my kit weighed out and will be getting it back to as close to 50/50 front/back as poss.
So far it as shed somewhere between 95-105kg. The new Koni kit should be at least another 5kg.
Most of it has been from the back so I'm kind of banking on 40kg of kit plus a full tank of fuel will get it close to neutral as possible.
Sounds interesting and fun. I'm already getting out of my depth but I would imagine that 50/50 with the weight within the wheelbase would be best. Rear windows are heavy and high. You can get plastic ones though I guess you might want to keep the heated facility for rallies.
Will be fun trying whatever the outcome!
Once the new suspension is on I have an appointment at my local tip...
They have a formidably accurate weighbridge which is able to measure accurate corner weights as well as the whole car. I've paid them already for their services with a slab of ale.
I've already got my kit weighed out and will be getting it back to as close to 50/50 front/back as poss.
So far it as shed somewhere between 95-105kg. The new Koni kit should be at least another 5kg.
Most of it has been from the back so I'm kind of banking on 40kg of kit plus a full tank of fuel will get it close to neutral as possible.
Sounds interesting and fun. I'm already getting out of my depth but I would imagine that 50/50 with the weight within the wheelbase would be best. Rear windows are heavy and high. You can get plastic ones though I guess you might want to keep the heated facility for rallies.
Will be fun trying whatever the outcome!
I did look at the lexan rear window but they are horribly expensive and they also flex a lot.
I've read that if you want to use the boot then they're a real no-no. Good for a track special but far from ideal for a rally car.
I've gone for a full lexan kit for front/rear glass on each side and am using a laminate overlay on front and back.
I've read that if you want to use the boot then they're a real no-no. Good for a track special but far from ideal for a rally car.
I've gone for a full lexan kit for front/rear glass on each side and am using a laminate overlay on front and back.
GC8 said:
In the past I have riveted a pair of D ring catches onto the lip, over which the rear squab fabric was clipped. The car has a pair of hooks at the rear already so you can eigher bungee net the luggage, or mini tie-down it to the load deck.
Interesting, thanks Simon.I took a trip to bungee city this weekend while competing - it actually worked very well. That said this is roughly half the kit I'll be carting around on the next rally.
stevieturbo said:
40-50kg heavy metal box in a crash...and bungee cord. Just think about that for a second.
Noted, you're quite right. I've got some ratchet straps on 4'' nylon to hold the case in place, is totally secure with them.The net linked above looks good - thanks. Will grab one of those in addition to run over the top of everything.
Benjj, ditch the trunk, you're not Harry Potter! Go for a couple of soft, squishy hold all bags instead if it's for your clothes and stuff to take into the digs with you. Anything you can leave in the car like tools and stuff can be strapped into the corners.
Try screwing Ali flight cases down to the floor if you have expensive or delicate stuff and you can even lock them if needs be. Tenner from B and Q.
Remember bum bags? If you can still get hold of them, cut the straps down to a few inches long and fasten them to the roll cage with joobie clips or to the body with screws to carry bits and bobs. I have loads in the car and even one in the door that has an open top big enough for a drinks can.
Try screwing Ali flight cases down to the floor if you have expensive or delicate stuff and you can even lock them if needs be. Tenner from B and Q.
Remember bum bags? If you can still get hold of them, cut the straps down to a few inches long and fasten them to the roll cage with joobie clips or to the body with screws to carry bits and bobs. I have loads in the car and even one in the door that has an open top big enough for a drinks can.
Benji,
50kgs of luggage?
What??? Do you take a dinner jacket in case you are invited to dinner with the Ambassador?
DRASTIC kit diet required!
Read works like "Journey to the Centre of the Earth", not Jules Verne but Richard and Nick Crane, cycling into darkest and highest Tibet, they got obsessive about weight saving. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Journey-Centre-Earth-Richa...
Maps with the margins cut off, toothbrushes with the handles cut off, really obsessive! Maybe you don't need to go so far, but I ask you, fifyty kgs, FIFTY KILOGRAMS?????? You can't take that much on RyanAir!
Chuck it all out and start again. Change of socks & undies for each day, toothbrush (in one piece!)and toothpaste, liquid soap and towel. What more do you want?
JOhn
50kgs of luggage?
What??? Do you take a dinner jacket in case you are invited to dinner with the Ambassador?
DRASTIC kit diet required!
Read works like "Journey to the Centre of the Earth", not Jules Verne but Richard and Nick Crane, cycling into darkest and highest Tibet, they got obsessive about weight saving. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Journey-Centre-Earth-Richa...
Maps with the margins cut off, toothbrushes with the handles cut off, really obsessive! Maybe you don't need to go so far, but I ask you, fifyty kgs, FIFTY KILOGRAMS?????? You can't take that much on RyanAir!
Chuck it all out and start again. Change of socks & undies for each day, toothbrush (in one piece!)and toothpaste, liquid soap and towel. What more do you want?
JOhn
Edited by tapkaJohnD on Friday 18th October 19:03
Edited by tapkaJohnD on Friday 18th October 19:05
Edited by tapkaJohnD on Friday 18th October 19:08
To add, the 35-40k is:
Spare wheel
Spare tyre
2 x inner tubes
Scissor jack
Wheel brace
Axle stand
MSA Scrutineering kit
Spares (coil, plugs, misc)
10 litres fuel
Oil and coolant
Small toolkit
Navigator's equipment
Clothes and washkit for 2 people for 6 days
Dinner suits x 2 (not joking
)
Small ceramic fanheater
Not really bad at all, just the spare wheel, jack and fuel make up nearly half the weight.
As for you Simon you cheeky little f
ker, I am actually on a crash diet to fit into the new fatboy seat 
Spare wheel
Spare tyre
2 x inner tubes
Scissor jack
Wheel brace
Axle stand
MSA Scrutineering kit
Spares (coil, plugs, misc)
10 litres fuel
Oil and coolant
Small toolkit
Navigator's equipment
Clothes and washkit for 2 people for 6 days
Dinner suits x 2 (not joking
)Small ceramic fanheater
Not really bad at all, just the spare wheel, jack and fuel make up nearly half the weight.
As for you Simon you cheeky little f
ker, I am actually on a crash diet to fit into the new fatboy seat 
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