Diesel Hillclimb

[mato]

Hi, looking to start hillclimbing next year (at Harewood) and was wondering what the current diesel equivalency rule is, the car in question is an Ibiza FR 1.9tdi, if its not in a suitable class, i'll just enter my Clio Sport, thanks in advance.

[Truckosaurus]

The correct answer is, of course, to check the regs for the series/event you want to enter as there are several different class structures.

It always used to be a 0.5 multiplier for diesel and 1.4 for a turbo so you could get a 2.0 turbo-diesel in the 1.4 class but a quick check of the Blue Book ( http://msauk.org/site/cms/contentviewarticle.asp?a... ) and a couple of championship regs don't list anything for diesels anymore, so I think you'd be in with the Scoobies and Evos with a 1.9tdi.

[andylaurence]

As stated, the equivalence factor varies from event to event, although more usually from region to region. Here in the South-West, you can run a <2000cc turbo-diesel in the <1400cc class. Lots of people say it's unfair, but I don't think anyone holds a class record in a diesel...

[PJS917]

At Harewood you will be in class 1C, Have a look at the Harewood web site and you will see the sort of vehicles you are up against. This year a chap entered in his Alfa 147 Diesel, can't remember his times but he had fun.

[andyps]

There is nothing in the Harewood regulations about diesels and the previous diesel entrants have been in the same engine size grouping as petrol engine cars. I think you should enter the Ibiza so there is something I can compete against on a more level playing field than there is with the Evos.

[mato]

Was thinking that was now the case that the difference with diesel no longer publicised,is a shame as it couldn't be competitive in that class, i've emailed them also, but fear I may have to scrap this plan... Thanks for the responses.

[andyps]

Unfortunately unless you have an Evo with over 400bhp you won't be competitive in the class. Doesn't stop it being fun though. And I was the quickest fwd car in the class this year* and the quickest unmodified car so I was happy.

• before anyone else says it, I was generally the only fwd car in the class.

[Shoestringracer]

I looked into something similar here:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

There are a couple of championships (not exclusive Harewood ones) that have a Diesel equivalency that effectively cancels out the turbo. So a 2000cc turbo diesel is in with 2000cc petrols. Given that they are now close to 200bhp (or more) and have lots of torque they would be very competitive.

As an example, my first time at Harewood and on the wrong tyres, my 250bhp Boxster S, and a Morgan plus eight I beat were both slower than a turbo Diesel Golf.

[SubaruSteve]

[quote=andyps]Unfortunately unless you have an Subaru with over 400bhp you won't be competitive in the class. Doesn't stop it being fun though. And I was the quickest fwd car in the class this year* and the quickest unmodified car so I was happy.



Fixed that for you

[andyps]

SubaruSteve said:

andyps said:

Unfortunately unless you have an Subaru with over 400bhp you won't be competitive in the class. Doesn't stop it being fun though. And I was the quickest fwd car in the class this year* and the quickest unmodified car so I was happy.

Fixed that for you

You'd better come along and prove that

[Trev450]

andyps said:

SubaruSteve said:

andyps said:

Unfortunately unless you have an Subaru with over 400bhp you won't be competitive in the class. Doesn't stop it being fun though. And I was the quickest fwd car in the class this year* and the quickest unmodified car so I was happy.

Fixed that for you

You'd better come along and prove that

I agree. My 400 + bhp evo loves beating scoobies.

[SubaruSteve]

Trev450 said:

andyps said:

SubaruSteve said:

andyps said:

Unfortunately unless you have an Subaru with over 400bhp you won't be competitive in the class. Doesn't stop it being fun though. And I was the quickest fwd car in the class this year* and the quickest unmodified car so I was happy.

Fixed that for you

You'd better come along and prove that

I agree. My 400 + bhp evo loves beating scoobies.

Ah, it feels like the season has started again already