750MC Kitcar Championship
Discussion
Hi
I have been involved with the Kitcar championship for the last 20 odd years or so. Not currently running any cars in the championship as they are currently trying to sort out the regulations to make them more attractive and have some sense about them.
Running costs will obviously vary as with all championships however if you take Entry fees fuel for race car and fuel for towing a few spares during the year you will be starting at around 4k. Damage and engine failures Etc Etc will obviously increase that figure accordingly. Initial cost of car will vary depending on how competitive you want to be. Ranging from a bargain SH car at around 5k-6k up to a complete new build capable of winning at 25k+
There is no specific forum for the Kitcar racing championship. But a few drivers are on the Locostbuilders forum.
Cheers Matt
I have been involved with the Kitcar championship for the last 20 odd years or so. Not currently running any cars in the championship as they are currently trying to sort out the regulations to make them more attractive and have some sense about them.
Running costs will obviously vary as with all championships however if you take Entry fees fuel for race car and fuel for towing a few spares during the year you will be starting at around 4k. Damage and engine failures Etc Etc will obviously increase that figure accordingly. Initial cost of car will vary depending on how competitive you want to be. Ranging from a bargain SH car at around 5k-6k up to a complete new build capable of winning at 25k+
There is no specific forum for the Kitcar racing championship. But a few drivers are on the Locostbuilders forum.
Cheers Matt
Thanks gor that, thats just the sort of info im after. I am a member of Locostbuilders so il check there too.
Also, whats the deal with the regs changes? i saw a post on another locost based site with someone asking for opinions on why the locost series seemed more popular than the kitcar one, but it didnt go into the specfics.
My other query is for sponsorship, i will trying to sell it to my employer as a good opportuinity to entertain clients, (rather than the usual, horseracing/bowling etc that they currenty use). Whats the pit/paddock like? The events ive been to have always had a distinct hirarchy where the lower formats get pushed to the back giving little chance to really impress sponsors/clients. Whats the 'favoured' formula(s) out of ones the 750mc will have at each venue?
Also, whats the deal with the regs changes? i saw a post on another locost based site with someone asking for opinions on why the locost series seemed more popular than the kitcar one, but it didnt go into the specfics.
My other query is for sponsorship, i will trying to sell it to my employer as a good opportuinity to entertain clients, (rather than the usual, horseracing/bowling etc that they currenty use). Whats the pit/paddock like? The events ive been to have always had a distinct hirarchy where the lower formats get pushed to the back giving little chance to really impress sponsors/clients. Whats the 'favoured' formula(s) out of ones the 750mc will have at each venue?
Edited by loggyboy on Thursday 23 July 12:43
Hi
Aha well theres been quite a few of the Kit drivers leaving the formula in the recent past due to the Regulations and there stupidity. Ie you have to run camshafts in the Zetec class that destroy the engines due to an unsuitable profile and the use of the STD valve train. Etc Etc. They are currently down on low numbers and are currently trying to see what regulations can be changed to attract some of the drivers back into the formula. Hence them asking for opinions on the formula on the locost forum.
Re the different formulas within the 750mc. There are non that have a distinct hierarchy. All formulas get the use of pit garages at some point during the year although the single seaters do get them more often. The paddock is a fairly laid back affair with most formulas all parked up in groups as per the paddock plan issued with the final instructions. Some circuits mean it gets a bit cramped occasionally but then the 750Mc do tend to bring along a high number of entries compared to some organising clubs. The meeting are very very well run hence the number of races they can fit in per day / weekend. Some of the circuits do have the hospitality rooms available but thats down to the individual circuits / owners as to whether they are available for the 750mc race weekends. Mind the use of a motor home would suffice for a low key close up pitch in type weekend.
Cheers Matt
Aha well theres been quite a few of the Kit drivers leaving the formula in the recent past due to the Regulations and there stupidity. Ie you have to run camshafts in the Zetec class that destroy the engines due to an unsuitable profile and the use of the STD valve train. Etc Etc. They are currently down on low numbers and are currently trying to see what regulations can be changed to attract some of the drivers back into the formula. Hence them asking for opinions on the formula on the locost forum.
Re the different formulas within the 750mc. There are non that have a distinct hierarchy. All formulas get the use of pit garages at some point during the year although the single seaters do get them more often. The paddock is a fairly laid back affair with most formulas all parked up in groups as per the paddock plan issued with the final instructions. Some circuits mean it gets a bit cramped occasionally but then the 750Mc do tend to bring along a high number of entries compared to some organising clubs. The meeting are very very well run hence the number of races they can fit in per day / weekend. Some of the circuits do have the hospitality rooms available but thats down to the individual circuits / owners as to whether they are available for the 750mc race weekends. Mind the use of a motor home would suffice for a low key close up pitch in type weekend.
Cheers Matt
I raced in kits for a number of years and recently left to join the BARC Westfields this year.
Mainly left because of the regs and rising costs plus general lack of close racing. In comparison the Westfield series is fantastic fun & extremely close. You can pick up a front running car for about 8k.
Season running costs like entry fees etc will be similar to the Kits for most series.
The 750mc was better organised than the BARC is but the BARC paddock is definitley more impressive in terms of the sorts of cars that race in it. The Dunlop MaxSport and the M3 & Mini Challenge series attracts high profile sponsors like Tesco whereas the 750mc paddock is a bit more down to earth.
Mainly left because of the regs and rising costs plus general lack of close racing. In comparison the Westfield series is fantastic fun & extremely close. You can pick up a front running car for about 8k.
Season running costs like entry fees etc will be similar to the Kits for most series.
The 750mc was better organised than the BARC is but the BARC paddock is definitley more impressive in terms of the sorts of cars that race in it. The Dunlop MaxSport and the M3 & Mini Challenge series attracts high profile sponsors like Tesco whereas the 750mc paddock is a bit more down to earth.
Your best source of information is to eak to some of the drivers in Kits at one of the meetings, and take a good look at their cars whilst you're at it. Try the next 750 Meeting at Silverstone on 23rd August. In fact, the whole club meets that weekend, so if you want to see all the formulae in one place, go on 22nd as well.
In terms of costs, nothing to add, but you certainly don't need to spend £25+ to win. But don't forget the cost of trailer, tow car, helmet, overalls, joining and registration fees, the occassional overnight stay, and maybe even the odd test session.
Take a close look at the regulations on www.750mc.co.uk for technical details of what is and isn't allowed, they haven't changed much this year (with hte exception of the Striker Challenge caars being added) and there's not much reason for them to change much next either. 2 - 3 years ago it was agreed to introduce a new engine, the 2.0l Duratec and attempt to equalise the other classes by changing some cam's and choke sizes. I think that was a mixed blessing with cars now being signficantly more pwerful, and quicker, but it does seem to have contributed to lower driver numbers. But maybe that's just a short term thing - I know of five drivers aiming to come back next year.
Have a think about what your budget is, what you want to get out of your racing, there will always be a solution and in my experience, Kits could easily meet someone's racing objectives. There's no longer any restrictions on sponsorship, although 'corporate entertainment' doesn't really exist with the 750MC, although the closest we came to this was by Kits and the sponsorship of two cars and the championship by grg.com.
If you want to speak to someone in more detail, Robin Knight (see 750 web site) can put you in contact with Nigel Brown, the Formula Rep, or send me an email, si.childs@talk21.com.
In terms of costs, nothing to add, but you certainly don't need to spend £25+ to win. But don't forget the cost of trailer, tow car, helmet, overalls, joining and registration fees, the occassional overnight stay, and maybe even the odd test session.
Take a close look at the regulations on www.750mc.co.uk for technical details of what is and isn't allowed, they haven't changed much this year (with hte exception of the Striker Challenge caars being added) and there's not much reason for them to change much next either. 2 - 3 years ago it was agreed to introduce a new engine, the 2.0l Duratec and attempt to equalise the other classes by changing some cam's and choke sizes. I think that was a mixed blessing with cars now being signficantly more pwerful, and quicker, but it does seem to have contributed to lower driver numbers. But maybe that's just a short term thing - I know of five drivers aiming to come back next year.
Have a think about what your budget is, what you want to get out of your racing, there will always be a solution and in my experience, Kits could easily meet someone's racing objectives. There's no longer any restrictions on sponsorship, although 'corporate entertainment' doesn't really exist with the 750MC, although the closest we came to this was by Kits and the sponsorship of two cars and the championship by grg.com.
If you want to speak to someone in more detail, Robin Knight (see 750 web site) can put you in contact with Nigel Brown, the Formula Rep, or send me an email, si.childs@talk21.com.
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