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Allen-GTR

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197 posts

273 months

Friday 19th November 2004
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Finally, last night, I got all those little bugs worked out. She started right up! It has been several years since I last heard an Ultima run; man what a sound!

A few little details to attend to (alignment, ride height, half shafts, final check of all nuts/bolts) but it shouldn't be long. The weather this weekend in Denver is calling for 4 inches of snow!

The next big hurdle is licensing and registration. Mostly its a matter of getting the right paperwork to the right person on a day when they are in a good mood.

I do have to take it to the Colorado State Police to get a VIN number assigned and get roadworthiness approval. THAT should be an intersting conversation!

I have insurance lined up with ANPAC, so that is taken care of.

Anyway, I am pretty pleased!

Allen

can-am-sarj

11 posts

272 months

Friday 19th November 2004
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well done mate!!

It must have been a great relief to get it running, what was the problem in the end??

Allen-GTR

Original Poster:

197 posts

273 months

Friday 19th November 2004
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It really was the battery. There was a bad cell. It produced the voltage, but was very weak in the amperage. The cell had shorted, and burned a hole in the bottom of the battery case. As luck would have it, the rubber pads I have the battery sitting on sealed the acid enough to prevent it from leaking out until I removed the battery. Of course then it poured out. When I was working with the EFI tech, we were measuring voltage, which was up to standard, which made the real issue difficult to identify.

Anyway, a replacement battery (Oddesey PC 625) worked perfectly. I now have a strong blue spark (stong enough to make you say bad words...ask me how I know)

No leaks in fuel, oil, or water. I was losing fuel pressure, and I could hear the pressure falling off. The fuel was not leaking, but I WAS getting a loss of pressure. I found the fuel filter was not screwed up tight against it's O-ring. A quick wrench tightened that up, went to 45 lbs and held. Then it fired off instantly.

With all the times I had tried to start it with no avail, I really didn't expect it to fire and when it finally did, I about pee'd on myself...

Allen



steve_D

13,802 posts

287 months

Friday 19th November 2004
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Agree with scareing the sh!t out of you when it first fires. After that it sends tingles down your spine when you rev it.

Nice work.
Enjoy.

Steve

builder

1,225 posts

271 months

Saturday 20th November 2004
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That's fantastic Allen. I know it was a long time coming and you must be very happy. Get some pix going...maybe a video.

Just came back from the builder's meeting in Chicago and am more charged than ever to build my own GTR.

Way to go!

-- Scott

Karlo

67 posts

279 months

Saturday 20th November 2004
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Allen

What are the details on your motor? Also who built it and the cost----maybe??

Allen-GTR

Original Poster:

197 posts

273 months

Saturday 20th November 2004
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Engine details:
Chevy 389
Edelbrock aluminum heads-70cc (Torn down and rebulit out of the box)
Lots of other valvetrain goodies...
Screaming Eagle rotating assy
Pistons tops/skirts, valves and bearings Calico ceramic coated
Comp cams - Duration @ .050-236 intake, 244 exhaust, Lobe seperation 108.0
Edelbrock EFI
Mallory electronic distributor
Pulled 500hp on the dyno

I had the engine built with adding a supercharger in mind. Next spring I will probably add another 150hp...

Built by Competition Engines in Colorado Springs, Colorado. I met these guys at the national AETC (Advanced Engine Technology Conference). They recently placed VERY highly in Hot Rod Magazine's engine competition. Great guys to work with, and they know their stuff. Period.

Expect about 8K for a similar spec.

I work at the AETC each year. In one room you have access to talk one on one with guys like Kenny Dutweiler, Bill Ford... Crew chiefs from about any race team you can mention in NASCAR, CART, IRL, Engineers from Comp Cams, FAST... Pretty cool.
(NOT a advertisement, just a good opportunity to meet people that know their s...stuff)

Allen

Karlo

67 posts

279 months

Saturday 20th November 2004
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Thanks

builder

1,225 posts

271 months

Sunday 21st November 2004
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Allen-GTR said:
Engine details:
Chevy 389...
Allen,

What year (or aftermarket manufacturer) block is it? And, do you have SMOG inspections?

-- Scott
Reno, NV

Allen-GTR

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197 posts

273 months

Sunday 21st November 2004
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It is a 74 block.

The emissions requirement for the county I am in for a kit car goes by the year the block. I need to pass an idle test only with 1974 standards. Also, '74 was pre cats of course, so I avoid all of that. Some counties in Colorado would not have required an emissions test at all with the 74 block, but I didn't get THAT lucky.... with a well tuned car, thats not a tough test to pass.

Under Colorado rules, I can still title the car as a 2005.

Oh, and our UK friends will LOVE this... My equivilant of SVA? I need to provide 2 pictures (one front and left side, one rear and right side) to prove the car roadworthy. Then the State police issue a VIN number...

Allen

>> Edited by Allen-GTR on Sunday 21st November 15:23

davefiddes

846 posts

289 months

Sunday 21st November 2004
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Heh. Good luck with getting your car on the road...sounds tough

I was actually quite happy to have someone else pour over my car and check it passed various tests. Good assurance that you'd not goofed up in some major way.

builder

1,225 posts

271 months

Sunday 21st November 2004
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Allen-GTR said:
It is a 74 block.

The emissions requirement for the county I am in for a kit car goes by the year the block. I need to pass an idle test only with 1974 standards. Also, '74 was pre cats of course, so I avoid all of that. Some counties in Colorado would not have required an emissions test at all with the 74 block, but I didn't get THAT lucky.... with a well tuned car, thats not a tough test to pass.

Under Colorado rules, I can still title the car as a 2005.

Oh, and our UK friends will LOVE this... My equivilant of SVA? I need to provide 2 pictures (one front and left side, one rear and right side) to prove the car roadworthy. Then the State police issue a VIN number...

Allen

>> Edited by Allen-GTR on Sunday 21st November 15:23
Thanks, Allen. Sounds like you can be on the road in days!

-- Scott
Reno, NV

chuntington101

5,733 posts

265 months

Monday 22nd November 2004
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what sort of supercharger you loking to fit? Roots, Whipple or ProChrager? and what is the comp. ratio?

should be very interesting when finished mate.

thanks Chris.

softwaresorcerer

437 posts

278 months

Monday 22nd November 2004
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Allen - I'm currently in the middle of moving from England to Colorado Springs. Will be there in late spring/early summer next year. Any chance of me dropping by one day as I drive through Denver?

Allen-GTR

Original Poster:

197 posts

273 months

Monday 22nd November 2004
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Of course! Let me know when you are planning. I actually live about half way between Colorado Springs and Denver. (Sothwest side of Denver)

As for the supercharger, I am thinking a Vortech. The compression ratio is 9.5:1, so I should be able to easily feed 5-6 lbs of boost without stressing the engine. The engine bulder knew I was planning one, so it was built with that goal in mind...

I need to wait until spring to work on that project. The Warden is about ready to beat me senseless as it is... I have even spent the money I had set aside for bail and impound costs, so Its time to start saving my pennies again!

I am planning to run the Silver State Classic this spring, so hopefully I will have it in by then...

Allen

softwaresorcerer

437 posts

278 months

Monday 22nd November 2004
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Allen-GTR said:
Of course! Let me know when you are planning. I actually live about half way between Colorado Springs and Denver. (Sothwest side of Denver)


I am planning to run the Silver State Classic this spring, so hopefully I will have it in by then...

Allen


Top man!

I'm moving there permanently, so there will be plenty of opportunity. I'll be selling all my cars in the UK, and fully intend building another in the States, and an Ultima is top of the list.

What speed are you aiming for in the Silver State Classic?

Allen-GTR

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197 posts

273 months

Tuesday 23rd November 2004
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The first time you run the race, the top speed you can average is 130. After you have run the race once, and as long as the car you are driving meets the saftey requirements, you can run in the unlimited class at 200+. I doubt I will try to run that one ever, but somewhere in the middle would bethe goal eventually.

130 should be plenty the first time out. The race is very much timing, so it will still be challenging.

You have to qualify (really a "can you drive and do you have the danglers" test) at Las Vegas Motor Speedway. A few laps around a superspeedway should be worth the price of admission alone! 12 degree banks! Besides, we'll see if my navagator can keep from soaking my seats!

Right now, I just wanna get her buttoned up and take a test drive or two!!!!

Allen

chuntington101

5,733 posts

265 months

Tuesday 23rd November 2004
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Allen you think the Vortech will fit? from the pics i have seen, it looks like they mount the charger in front of the engine! also what trim of vortech you looking at?

should be a nice uit though. high comp and low boost will mena good drivablility with the advantage of boost. HEHE. keep us posted on how the build goes. oh yeah, you gona be running water/meth injection?

thanks Chris.

Allen-GTR

Original Poster:

197 posts

273 months

Tuesday 23rd November 2004
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The V1-S should fit. I believe the pulley system protrudes forward about as much as a March water pump pulley, or maybe a little bit further, but still do-able.

Water-Meth injection? Noooo. Thats a bit high-brow for me. I am a pump gas kinda guy!

builder

1,225 posts

271 months

Wednesday 24th November 2004
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Allen-GTR said:
I am planning to run the Silver State Classic this spring, so hopefully I will have it in by then...

Allen
Allen,

Yes, LVMS is a very cool prooving-ground.

I know some folks that have run the Silver State and are always happy to share their experiences, if you want some insight.

For anyone interested in the Silver State rules, course, records, etc., check out www.silverstateclassic.com

Heads-up, Allen. If a participant receives a moving violation (speeding ticket) on Highway 278 and/or 318 (the two event courses) within 90 days, prior to the event participant is entered in, and the event officials are properly notified, the participant will be disqualified. This is required by the Nevada
Department of Transportation.