Redback Spyder??
Discussion
Has anyone seen this before? I stumbled across it at the Melbourne Motor Show website. In the "Breaking News" section, click on the 'Redback Spyder Bares its Fangs' link most of the way down the page. There is also another picture of it in the 'pictures of the cavalcade'. Looks like a cool show.
www.motorshow.com.au/
The Redback Spyder reminds me an awful lot of an Ultima! Looks like they took an Ultima and did a lot of customization to the body. Hmmm, I wonder where they got that inspiration for this project (as mentioned in the article)........
www.motorshow.com.au/
The Redback Spyder reminds me an awful lot of an Ultima! Looks like they took an Ultima and did a lot of customization to the body. Hmmm, I wonder where they got that inspiration for this project (as mentioned in the article)........
Try this link
www.carbontech.com.au/
Selling complete cars only.
Uses push rod suspension
Uses a supercharged LS series engine. Exhaust design might provide some inspiration to those fitting LS engines into Ultima’s.
www.carbontech.com.au/
Selling complete cars only.
Uses push rod suspension
Uses a supercharged LS series engine. Exhaust design might provide some inspiration to those fitting LS engines into Ultima’s.
peterpsg said:
The word 'rip-off' comes to mind... typical Ozzies... then again what do you expect from a nation that can't even spell the word 'beer' (XXXX)!
I think they may have stolen it from a UK woman?
Chassis
Engine
Body
HAHAHA!!
also.... the spec says Getrag/LS combo..... so it can be done!
>> Edited by crafty on Monday 13th February 13:53
peterpsg said:
The word 'rip-off' comes to mind... typical Ozzies... then again what do you expect from a nation that can't even spell the word 'beer' (XXXX)!
Yes it has 4 wheels " One at each corner " midengined V8, 2 Seats..... Total ripoff realy..... NOT
I think you will find that Mclaren Jaguar Ford etc etc came up with the basic Idea..... It's Just Ultima that has sold it to the Masses and made it popular..
Ok, ok, maybe I was a little hasty in slagging it off! :-) (just testing to see if any Aussies are reading this (I'm a Kiwi) !!!)
At at second glance it looks more like a Stealth than a GTR, they have done quite a nice job, though I'm not quite sure about the location of the headlights (vaugely Pagaini-ish), it could give an on-comming car/truck the impression that the car is narrower than it actually is !!!
Still, food for thought, and the GTR is a 7 year old model...
At at second glance it looks more like a Stealth than a GTR, they have done quite a nice job, though I'm not quite sure about the location of the headlights (vaugely Pagaini-ish), it could give an on-comming car/truck the impression that the car is narrower than it actually is !!!
Still, food for thought, and the GTR is a 7 year old model...
ezakimak said:
Try this link
www.carbontech.com.au/
Selling complete cars only.
Uses push rod suspension
Uses a supercharged LS series engine. Exhaust design might provide some inspiration to those fitting LS engines into Ultima’s.
Thanks for the link. They have a lot of info and pics on the website. Pretty cool stuff. Personally not a big fan of the front end design, but it is different and I admire the engineering behind it.
[quote=peterpsg]..just testing to see if any Aussies are reading this (I'm a Kiwi) !!!)[quote]
AHAH!! - thats why you dont recognize the car.
In NZ this car is called the Ridbick.
It was shown at the NZ motorshow with optional sheepskin interior...... The interior had to be replaced after the show as it was covered in lovebites. Bloody sheepshaggers.
hehehe
AHAH!! - thats why you dont recognize the car.
In NZ this car is called the Ridbick.
It was shown at the NZ motorshow with optional sheepskin interior...... The interior had to be replaced after the show as it was covered in lovebites. Bloody sheepshaggers.
hehehe
I guess you've all seen the Joss?
www.joss.com.au/
This was released a few years ago at the show. This one is based on a GTR chassis, seems to have disappeared in a puff of marketing hype...
www.joss.com.au/
This was released a few years ago at the show. This one is based on a GTR chassis, seems to have disappeared in a puff of marketing hype...
crafty said:
I guess you've all seen the Joss?
www.joss.com.au/
This was released a few years ago at the show. This one is based on a GTR chassis, seems to have disappeared in a puff of marketing hype...
Crafty, I had not seen that. Looks interesting, thanks for the link. That actually reminds me of the Factory Five GTM! I guess there is only so much that can be done differently for cars in this performance range.
peterpsg said:
Ok, ok, maybe I was a little hasty in slagging it off! :-) (just testing to see if any Aussies are reading this (I'm a Kiwi) !!!)
At at second glance it looks more like a Stealth than a GTR, they have done quite a nice job, though I'm not quite sure about the location of the headlights (vaugely Pagaini-ish), it could give an on-comming car/truck the impression that the car is narrower than it actually is !!!
Still, food for thought, and the GTR is a 7 year old model...
We're here... just waiting for the right moment to pounce
I just had a look at the Joss and the Redback Spyder... seem quite good. But the chassis on the Redback in the back half looks very weak compared to the Ultima (in my inexpert view).
I guess its the cabin, sides and general line that make it look like a ripoff. I sort of like the front, but I have to wonder about the amount of air for the radiator. It looks like it would be alot less than what gets pushed through the Ultima radiator.
What I don't understand is why they built it? No plans to make production cars. Maybe its to get into the custom car gig.
Redback is the name of a really good wheat beer in Australia, and the name of a deadly spider. This car seems to fit in quite nicely.
I guess its the cabin, sides and general line that make it look like a ripoff. I sort of like the front, but I have to wonder about the amount of air for the radiator. It looks like it would be alot less than what gets pushed through the Ultima radiator.
What I don't understand is why they built it? No plans to make production cars. Maybe its to get into the custom car gig.
Redback is the name of a really good wheat beer in Australia, and the name of a deadly spider. This car seems to fit in quite nicely.
I’ve just published the following in my blog with some photos as well
http://spaces.msn.com/rlfromoz/
I had a look at the Red back Spider at the Melbourne motor show on Thursday night. While I’m not 100% happy with the styling of the vehicle, I did like the level of engineering that had been put into it. It seems very similar to the Ultima in terms of its design and execution; it might even be slightly larger. While I was there I dropped the camera down and took a few photos of the underside of the car. They appear to use an adaptor plate to mount the transaxle to the engine block, just like what is done in the Ultima. A bit later on in the night I went to get a coffee and bumped into Nick Tomkinson at the café. Nick is the main person behind the build of this car. I was able to ask him a few questions in regards to the car. He has apparently built two of them at this point in time. The first one is currently in the USA has a 450kw supercharged engine and uses a tiptronic Getrag gear box out of a Porsche. While the second one, the one on the stand at the show featured a manual box, again a Getrag box, but different to the box that was out of the 911. There is photo of it on their web site,
www.panoimages.info/carbontech/gearbox1.jpg;
it does seem slightly different to the 996 & 997 boxes. The ring and pinion seems to be mounted below the input shaft and as a result the drive shaft angle was parallel to the angle of the lower wishbone.
The car on the stand also had an interesting fully automated arrangement to open the rear clip or cam shell cover. It was arraigned so that there was a short link at that back of the cover were it would normally pivot from. This link allowed the clip to pivot up and backward to allow some clearance between the rear wheels. It would first move backward and upward, before pivoting to open the rear cover in a standard way, as if there was only one hinge point. This was all driven by a single Linak linear actuator. When the clip cam down to close there were two rollers which would slid into a profiled channel that would hold the front of the clip closed and inline with the rest of the bodywork. It seemed to work fairly well.
The air intake for the car is also of some interest for those that are putting LS engines in to the Ultima’s. The engine in this car was built by www.kmrolco.com/. I spoke with the engine guy that was at the stand and he said that he could supply an engine and loom package to allow an engine to be fitted to an Ultima, all I had to say was how much power I wanted, and if it had to be emissions compliant. The 700 hp LS engine that was on display was very nice in deed, with its dry sump, AFR heads and 8 separate throttle bodies. The Red back at the show was using a standard LS intake manifold, though it was reversed on the block. Onto the back of this a short carbon tube and airflow meter were positioned and then a custom fabricated and anodized aluminum air box with filter was attached. This was positioned so that with the clip closed it would draw air in through two small vents in the deck of the rear clip, this effectively provided a cold air intake for the engine. The air box appeared to be mounted entirely on to the rearward facing throttle body so that a slight movement either forward or backward would open or close any gap that may have been between the air box and rear clip. There was also some tapered shrouding on the under-side of the rear clip to insure a good seal to the air box also. I like this design as it allows for adjustment between air box and clip while still providing good cold air intake abilities.
Their was also the Elfin clubman and MS8 streamliners at the show. I’ve included some photos of the engine bay and the air box on these cars as they are also low volume production cars and might give a few ideas to air intakes
http://spaces.msn.com/rlfromoz/
I had a look at the Red back Spider at the Melbourne motor show on Thursday night. While I’m not 100% happy with the styling of the vehicle, I did like the level of engineering that had been put into it. It seems very similar to the Ultima in terms of its design and execution; it might even be slightly larger. While I was there I dropped the camera down and took a few photos of the underside of the car. They appear to use an adaptor plate to mount the transaxle to the engine block, just like what is done in the Ultima. A bit later on in the night I went to get a coffee and bumped into Nick Tomkinson at the café. Nick is the main person behind the build of this car. I was able to ask him a few questions in regards to the car. He has apparently built two of them at this point in time. The first one is currently in the USA has a 450kw supercharged engine and uses a tiptronic Getrag gear box out of a Porsche. While the second one, the one on the stand at the show featured a manual box, again a Getrag box, but different to the box that was out of the 911. There is photo of it on their web site,
www.panoimages.info/carbontech/gearbox1.jpg;
it does seem slightly different to the 996 & 997 boxes. The ring and pinion seems to be mounted below the input shaft and as a result the drive shaft angle was parallel to the angle of the lower wishbone.
The car on the stand also had an interesting fully automated arrangement to open the rear clip or cam shell cover. It was arraigned so that there was a short link at that back of the cover were it would normally pivot from. This link allowed the clip to pivot up and backward to allow some clearance between the rear wheels. It would first move backward and upward, before pivoting to open the rear cover in a standard way, as if there was only one hinge point. This was all driven by a single Linak linear actuator. When the clip cam down to close there were two rollers which would slid into a profiled channel that would hold the front of the clip closed and inline with the rest of the bodywork. It seemed to work fairly well.
The air intake for the car is also of some interest for those that are putting LS engines in to the Ultima’s. The engine in this car was built by www.kmrolco.com/. I spoke with the engine guy that was at the stand and he said that he could supply an engine and loom package to allow an engine to be fitted to an Ultima, all I had to say was how much power I wanted, and if it had to be emissions compliant. The 700 hp LS engine that was on display was very nice in deed, with its dry sump, AFR heads and 8 separate throttle bodies. The Red back at the show was using a standard LS intake manifold, though it was reversed on the block. Onto the back of this a short carbon tube and airflow meter were positioned and then a custom fabricated and anodized aluminum air box with filter was attached. This was positioned so that with the clip closed it would draw air in through two small vents in the deck of the rear clip, this effectively provided a cold air intake for the engine. The air box appeared to be mounted entirely on to the rearward facing throttle body so that a slight movement either forward or backward would open or close any gap that may have been between the air box and rear clip. There was also some tapered shrouding on the under-side of the rear clip to insure a good seal to the air box also. I like this design as it allows for adjustment between air box and clip while still providing good cold air intake abilities.
Their was also the Elfin clubman and MS8 streamliners at the show. I’ve included some photos of the engine bay and the air box on these cars as they are also low volume production cars and might give a few ideas to air intakes
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