Clutch systems / heavy pedal
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I have been hearing that the factory clutch system can get a little hard on the old legs after a while driving, and in traffic.
Those of you lucky ones that have finished your cars, can you give me some feedback on this.
I have suggested that a way round this will be to fit a super clutch, 2 organic plates with a 7.25 alloy fly wheel, it is not a cheep option by any means and I am only ever going to run up to 500BHP max, is it a good idea?
I’m going to be running an LSx engine with G50 gearbox, does anyone know if the factory clutch system will work?
Pete
Those of you lucky ones that have finished your cars, can you give me some feedback on this.
I have suggested that a way round this will be to fit a super clutch, 2 organic plates with a 7.25 alloy fly wheel, it is not a cheep option by any means and I am only ever going to run up to 500BHP max, is it a good idea?
I’m going to be running an LSx engine with G50 gearbox, does anyone know if the factory clutch system will work?
Pete
When I first built the car the clutch felt really heavy, but you quickly get used to it.
If after it is built you find the clutch is too heavy you might consider retro fitting servo assistance to it; it will probably be cheaper than multiplate clutches anyway. I have used this system with success on a Morgan driven by someone with bad arthritis.
If after it is built you find the clutch is too heavy you might consider retro fitting servo assistance to it; it will probably be cheaper than multiplate clutches anyway. I have used this system with success on a Morgan driven by someone with bad arthritis.
splatspeed said:
no this is quite a serious issue with leg damage
wife has a bone graft on her left knee
does this mean she cant drive my car?????
oh i hope it does
Sean
wife has a bone graft on her left knee
does this mean she cant drive my car?????
oh i hope it does
Sean
No Sean, I'd say the fact that it's an Ultima precludes her from driving anyway
On a more serious note, it also depends on how tall she is. It can be a bit of a stretch to the pedals if you're vertically challenged and the seats only go forward so far.
To be honest, unless you're married to Fatima Whitbread, the pedals will wear her out VERY quickly.
I'm going the tripple plate route on my new car as having driven a few Ultima's one common theme was that the clutch was heavy, I could cope fine but the wife stood no chance.
It's not a cheap option but its much better IMO lighter and less movement.... speak to GD as they do a tripple plate kit for the G50 to SBC, which includes adapter starter etc etc.
It's not a cheap option but its much better IMO lighter and less movement.... speak to GD as they do a tripple plate kit for the G50 to SBC, which includes adapter starter etc etc.
Try fitting a 5/8" girling master cylinder instead of the 3/4" that the factory supply. You leg moves a little further but it is a *LOT* easier to drive with. It's not slower IMHO. Lots of feel too...which I think you lose with a multiplate clutch.
Also have a good look over the mechanism I found that the clevis on the master cylinder fouled on the clutch pedal such that it bent the connecting rod.
Spending a bit of time to be totally sure that the bits fit and are well greased is a good idea.
At £25 or so for the master cylinder and an afternoons work it's not too expensive if you decide you want to go back.
Also have a good look over the mechanism I found that the clevis on the master cylinder fouled on the clutch pedal such that it bent the connecting rod.
Spending a bit of time to be totally sure that the bits fit and are well greased is a good idea. At £25 or so for the master cylinder and an afternoons work it's not too expensive if you decide you want to go back.
davefiddes said:
Try fitting a 5/8" girling master cylinder instead of the 3/4" that the factory supply. You leg moves a little further but it is a *LOT* easier to drive with. It's not slower IMHO. Lots of feel too...which I think you lose with a multiplate clutch.
At £25 or so for the master cylinder and an afternoons work it's not too expensive if you decide you want to go back.
At £25 or so for the master cylinder and an afternoons work it's not too expensive if you decide you want to go back.
I've done this mod and it makes quite a difference.
“speak to GD as they do a tripple plate kit for the G50 to SBC, which includes adapter starter etc etc.”
I have the system is about £2k ouch.
Fitting a 5/8” master cylinder sounds like a great idea.
Good job I have not ordered them from AP yet
I'm going for an LS1 engine, will the standard factory g50 clutch system work for me?
If so what is the starter they use, I think it is a standard G50.
What about the fly wheel?
Kennedy engineering do an adaptor LSx to G50 I think this comes with a flywheel, infact I think they do a hole kit, I don't really understand there emails, has anyone got there bits from them?
I have the system is about £2k ouch.
Fitting a 5/8” master cylinder sounds like a great idea.
Good job I have not ordered them from AP yet
I'm going for an LS1 engine, will the standard factory g50 clutch system work for me?
If so what is the starter they use, I think it is a standard G50.
What about the fly wheel?
Kennedy engineering do an adaptor LSx to G50 I think this comes with a flywheel, infact I think they do a hole kit, I don't really understand there emails, has anyone got there bits from them?
Hold up!
Yes I was shocked after I got in and realised just how stiff the clutch was.......but after only a few hundred miles, I've forgotten what the fuss was about. You are young and fit ain't ya? Just think of it as yet another reminder that you not in an ordinary mota!!
Biggest thing I found to be important is to get seat to pedal distance and pedal angle right for you. You push with your back against the seat to depress the clutch, not just quads 'n calf.
LuckyP
Yes I was shocked after I got in and realised just how stiff the clutch was.......but after only a few hundred miles, I've forgotten what the fuss was about. You are young and fit ain't ya? Just think of it as yet another reminder that you not in an ordinary mota!!
Biggest thing I found to be important is to get seat to pedal distance and pedal angle right for you. You push with your back against the seat to depress the clutch, not just quads 'n calf.
LuckyP
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