Clutch Alignment
Clutch Alignment
Author
Discussion

DHGTR

Original Poster:

1,196 posts

272 months

Monday 17th March 2008
quotequote all
Evening all, i have a triple plate clutch on my car (no im not just boasting), which means the pair of universal aligners ive borrowed arent long enough to align. anyone got a decent aligner maybe with a splined shaft so i can line up my lovely triple plates. Not necesarily looking for a 'borra' but just make and retailer details would do.
Thanks guys.

dave

CanAm Dave

939 posts

253 months

Monday 17th March 2008
quotequote all
Hi Dave

I also have a triple plate clutch that I hope to be fitting over the Easter break along with my new box. I am using an old sawn-off input shaft to align mine. The 23 spline input shaft is the same as a Ford so they are not that hard to find. If you have problems finding a tool or old input shaft then send me a mail. This is my new clutch! It's a triple plate organic rated at 900lbs.



Regards Dave


ROWDYRENAULT

1,294 posts

243 months

Monday 17th March 2008
quotequote all
Guys Could you enlighten the unwashed out here, that are not aware of this setup. Who makes it? how much? what advantage? Thanks in advance. Lee

CanAm Dave

939 posts

253 months

Monday 17th March 2008
quotequote all
ROWDYRENAULT said:
Guys Could you enlighten the unwashed out here, that are not aware of this setup. Who makes it? how much? what advantage? Thanks in advance. Lee
Hi Lee

The reason that I have gone this way is due to the torque that my engine is making. It's making over 700lbs of torque and the clutch setup with my G96 Getrag could not hold all that torque and was slipping on my last dyno session. I now have a G96-50 and so I needed a new clutch setup anyway. There is no advantage to it! My clutch is made by Super Clutch in the UK and costs around £700.

Regards Dave

ROWDYRENAULT

1,294 posts

243 months

Monday 17th March 2008
quotequote all
Dave for my future refrence does the company make a trile clutch that will fit a g50 transaxel?

crafty

2,291 posts

266 months

Tuesday 18th March 2008
quotequote all
CanAm Dave said:
It's making over 700lbs of torque
holy crap!

CanAm Dave

939 posts

253 months

Tuesday 18th March 2008
quotequote all
ROWDYRENAULT said:
Dave for my future refrence does the company make a trile clutch that will fit a g50 transaxel?
Hi Lee

The G96-50 is a G50 setup!

Regards Dave

GTRCLIVE

4,193 posts

312 months

Tuesday 18th March 2008
quotequote all
Put the clutch on but dont do up the bolts (Plates just easy to slide), slide the gearbox on, then partialy do up the bolts on the clutch though any hole you have in the Bellhousing. Turn the flywheel around useing a driver, tightening as many bolt as you can just to nip the plates then remove the gearbox carefully and torque the bolts up properly.... worked for me any times.......

Also works on any Porker clutch.....

shithotfast

1,134 posts

297 months

Tuesday 18th March 2008
quotequote all
I used a tilton triple plate, but found it was a case of either stalling the engine or leaving two black lines every time i pulled away from stand still. They were metal plates though which are worst for "slip" IE none. I changed to a twin plate normal material and its a lot better. Would be interested to hear what its like living with a triple plate like this.

LuckyP

6,243 posts

254 months

Tuesday 18th March 2008
quotequote all
I came away from the factory set up when I had 'spinage' issues at Santa Pod and went for a SPEC solution stage 2+:

http://www.specclutch.com/

It's the std Sachs cover plate uprated with SPEC springs with a carbon/Kevlar friction material.

Trouble was that it gripped like mad and made town driving a real chore (lots of judder). 2nd gear starts were a no-no, but on track and standing starts it was superb.

Now I'm going for the same cover plate with the organic disc from their stage one range. Hope to rediscover everyday drivability with the added bonus of high clamping pressure.

All the talk of these tripple plates is making my wallet finger twitch though biggrin

bluesatin

3,115 posts

301 months

Tuesday 18th March 2008
quotequote all
Lucky

And I thought it was driving style! Must remember to check first.

LuckyP

6,243 posts

254 months

Tuesday 18th March 2008
quotequote all
bluesatin said:
Lucky

And I thought it was driving style! Must remember to check first.
Yours must have welded itself to the flyweel by now, ain't it, through lack of use!!

Say, bored with that TT yet? Gonna get yourself a 'proper' Porsche?

(don't you just hate thread hijackers!! biggrin)

GtrSimon

127 posts

249 months

Tuesday 18th March 2008
quotequote all
I have fitted a triple plate, to align I machined up an adaptor which works well, will loan out if required. took a while to make as the fit has to absolutely perfect else gearbox wont slide on.

LuckyP

6,243 posts

254 months

Tuesday 18th March 2008
quotequote all
Willing to give you measurements on my SPEC, single clutch adaptor (provided with the kit).

Pete


Davrianman

487 posts

293 months

Tuesday 18th March 2008
quotequote all
CanAm Dave said:
Hi Dave

I also have a triple plate clutch that I hope to be fitting over the Easter break along with my new box. I am using an old sawn-off input shaft to align mine. The 23 spline input shaft is the same as a Ford so they are not that hard to find. If you have problems finding a tool or old input shaft then send me a mail. This is my new clutch! It's a triple plate organic rated at 900lbs.



Regards Dave
Hi Dave,

Spoke to the Superclutch guys ar Stonleigh (Race Retro) last weekend. I was looking at the same unit with the organic material... Did you also use their hydraulic release bearing? They are about £270, but look really nice...
Would be interested to hear how it performs on the road as I will have similar torque hopefully out of my 434.
Does this fit straight to the standard Ultima flywheel setup?

Cheers,
Mart

CanAm Dave

939 posts

253 months

Tuesday 18th March 2008
quotequote all
Davrianman said:
Hi Dave,

Spoke to the Superclutch guys ar Stonleigh (Race Retro) last weekend. I was looking at the same unit with the organic material... Did you also use their hydraulic release bearing? They are about £270, but look really nice...
Would be interested to hear how it performs on the road as I will have similar torque hopefully out of my 434.
Does this fit straight to the standard Ultima flywheel setup?

Cheers,
Mart
Hi Mart

I am using a bespoke flywheel and ring gear with this clutch. I am using a HRB but not from Super Clutch. Have a look at my website for more info or send me a mail. Here is a pic of how the flywheel, clutch and ring gear go together. All up it weighs in at 9.4kg compared to 16.5kg with my old setup! It's an easy fit into a normal G50 but has been a lot of work to get it into my G96-50. The bellhousing is smaller on the G96-50.



Regards Dave
www.v8yes.co.uk

GtrSimon

127 posts

249 months

Wednesday 19th March 2008
quotequote all
CanAm Dave said:
Davrianman said:
Hi Mart

I am using a bespoke flywheel and ring gear with this clutch. I am using a HRB but not from Super Clutch. Have a look at my website for more info or send me a mail. Here is a pic of how the flywheel, clutch and ring gear go together. All up it weighs in at 9.4kg compared to 16.5kg with my old setup! It's an easy fit into a normal G50 but has been a lot of work to get it into my G96-50. The bellhousing is smaller on the G96-50.



Regards Dave
www.v8yes.co.uk
Hi Dave your setup looks the same as I fitted from GD using there center release as well. its a bit heavy so looking at changing the master cylinder bore size or going to the gym!

CanAm Dave

939 posts

253 months

Wednesday 19th March 2008
quotequote all
Hi Simon

What size master cylinder are you using? I'm changing mine from a 3/4 to 5/8 which is what GD use!

Regards Dave

DHGTR

Original Poster:

1,196 posts

272 months

Wednesday 19th March 2008
quotequote all
thanks for the replies guys.
im going to try clives (cheap and convenient) method at the weekend and if that doesnt work ........ dave, simon, pete look out for my email, although that thing youve got Pete, looks rather like those 'sex change dilation things' that hospitals use ....... you sure you havent got a can-am!!!!!!!

Dave, snap with the clutch, ive been informed that the triple plate is a bit lighter on the left leg as well. have you gone for the hydraulic thrust bearing as well?

cheers

dave



Edited by DHGTR on Wednesday 19th March 14:18

GtrSimon

127 posts

249 months

Wednesday 19th March 2008
quotequote all
CanAm Dave said:
Hi Simon

What size master cylinder are you using? I'm changing mine from a 3/4 to 5/8 which is what GD use!

Regards Dave
Going to try the 5/8 as well at the moment its got standard Ultima 3/4