Engine Pre-Oiling Tool
Engine Pre-Oiling Tool
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clynos1

Original Poster:

199 posts

227 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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I have heard mention of such a tool, anyone able to point me in the right direction so that I can obtain one, I understand you insert it into the distributor drive and use a hand drill to pressurise the engine.
Any info gratefully received
David

eliot

11,995 posts

283 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Pretty much - easy to make also. I cant remeber now if its a slot in the end of the pump. If it is, get a large screwdriver from pound shop remove the handle and fit into an eletric drill.
If its a new engine, it will spin quickly until the oil pressure is reached and then (at least in my drill) go pretty slowly as its pumping it round. With the valve covers removed, you should see oil pooling in the top.

Stu R

21,634 posts

244 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Something like this? http://www.accusump.com/

suntiger1965

3,547 posts

231 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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yep pretty much it.must do it after a rebuild and after engine been stood in storage...

if you have left the car over winter turn her over on the starter until oil pressure is seen before firing..

50% of engine wear is on first start up..

Steve_D

13,802 posts

287 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Whilst it is possible to drive the oil pump with a rod or driver bit you will have difficulty getting up to pressure because there is an oilway that comes in at the side of the dizzy shaft. The tool you buy has a section of body that covers the oilway.
I have the tool which you would be welcome to borrow if you were local.

Steve

clynos1

Original Poster:

199 posts

227 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Many thanks for the offer Steve and yes please, I live in Winterslow, Wilts. (between Salisbury and Andover).
Can I get back to you after the festive season and make the arrangement to collect it.
David

ezakimak

1,871 posts

265 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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Steve_D said:
Whilst it is possible to drive the oil pump with a rod or driver bit you will have difficulty getting up to pressure because there is an oilway that comes in at the side of the dizzy shaft. The tool you buy has a section of body that covers the oilway.
I have the tool which you would be welcome to borrow if you were local.

Steve
from that statement, extrapolating a bit, would it be posible to make one buy machining/removing the cam drive and distributor components from an old disy and then inserting that in a drill, assuming you had an old disy sitting on the shelf.

Steve_D

13,802 posts

287 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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clynos1 said:
Many thanks for the offer Steve and yes please, I live in Winterslow, Wilts. (between Salisbury and Andover).
Can I get back to you after the festive season and make the arrangement to collect it.
David
Yes no problem.

Steve

Steve_D

13,802 posts

287 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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ezakimak said:
from that statement, extrapolating a bit, would it be posible to make one buy machining/removing the cam drive and distributor components from an old disy and then inserting that in a drill, assuming you had an old disy sitting on the shelf.
Yes, would work fine.

Whilst we are on that subject I'm still looking for an old dizzy to chop up for my conversion to EDIS 8 ignition (where the dizzy is only required to drive the oil pump).

Steve

bluesatin

3,115 posts

301 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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Steve,

Crazy may have an old Dizzy- he has been through a few of them!

V8 Vum

3,206 posts

250 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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Bing totally thick on US engines, is this needed for the LS7? Mine has been standing for over a year, and I hope to have it ready to fire up in the next month or two, so knowing what to do before may save wear?

cheers

keith

srreck

529 posts

290 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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ChaChaChaaaaaaaaaaaan !!!!!!
Here is this piece of aerospatial engineering smile
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=...

Steve_D

13,802 posts

287 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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eliot

11,995 posts

283 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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Steve_D said:
Whilst it is possible to drive the oil pump with a rod or driver bit you will have difficulty getting up to pressure because there is an oilway that comes in at the side of the dizzy shaft. The tool you buy has a section of body that covers the oilway.
I have the tool which you would be welcome to borrow if you were local.

Steve
Hmm - cant say that I noticed any oil squirting out in that area when I did mine. Certainly got good pressure without any problems. Does that apply to all blocks?
Cant even think where it would feed the dizzy - as there's no hole in the side of the housing from memory. And if it did it would leak into the dizzy no?


Edited by eliot on Tuesday 23 December 21:11

Steve_D

13,802 posts

287 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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eliot said:
Steve_D said:
Whilst it is possible to drive the oil pump with a rod or driver bit you will have difficulty getting up to pressure because there is an oilway that comes in at the side of the dizzy shaft. The tool you buy has a section of body that covers the oilway.
I have the tool which you would be welcome to borrow if you were local.

Steve
Hmm - cant say that I noticed any oil squirting out in that area when I did mine. Certainly got good pressure without any problems. Does that apply to all blocks?
Cant even think where it would feed the dizzy - as there's no hole in the side of the housing from memory. And if it did it would leak into the dizzy no?
It is mentioned in the description of the tool I linked to.

Also these words from another add.

"Everyone knows how important it is to prime the oil pump before starting up that newly rebuilt engine...right? Well, our Oil Pump Primers help get the job done right. They all feature a nonslip triangular drive tip for attaching a drill, as well as a black oxide coating for added durability. The Pro models have a top alignment collar. The Chevy tool also includes a bushing to pressurize the upper valve train. The Econo models consist of the oil pump drive shaft only."

John Lingenfelters book on the SBC also says "The distributor is lubricated via the left side oil galley."

Steve

738 driver

1,202 posts

222 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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Even in aftermarket blocks the hole Steve refers to is directly from the adjacent lifter bore. However you might be able to raise oil pressure just with a drive, depending on the type of lifter installed and its parked-position when you attempt to prime your motor.
For the extra couple of dollars the one with the blanking collar is well worth it...... IMHO!

eliot

11,995 posts

283 months

Wednesday 24th December 2008
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Right I'm with you now, you mean down in the V of the engine - not at the top.

Steve_D

13,802 posts

287 months

Wednesday 24th December 2008
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eliot said:
Right I'm with you now, you mean down in the V of the engine - not at the top.
It must be fairly high up as the sleeve is not very long.

Steve

eliot

11,995 posts

283 months

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

289 months

Tuesday 30th December 2008
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V8 Vum said:
Bing totally thick on US engines, is this needed for the LS7? Mine has been standing for over a year, and I hope to have it ready to fire up in the next month or two, so knowing what to do before may save wear?

cheers

keith
They make pressure very quickly due to the modern pump but priming the oil galleries from the top, rear of the valley or using pressure somehow wouldn't be a bad idea. Then crank it with the plugs out and the injectors disconnected to get oil pressure.