Machine shop for holes
Machine shop for holes
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Daytonaman675

Original Poster:

12 posts

212 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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Has anyone gone through the pain/cost of using a machine shop to drill the holes for the rivits for the interior? Not saying i'm lazy but 1000+ rivits seems like it could save me some time to have a machine shop do them all in one go.

Thanks,
Scott

crafty

2,291 posts

266 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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Get the factory to do it,

ezakimak

1,871 posts

265 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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if you are getting the pannels laser cut can the holes not be done at the same time with the laser?

Steve_D

13,802 posts

287 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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The panels are individually hand crafted to fit in place around welds etc. You then drill through both the panel and chassis in one go so having panels drilled first is of little benefit as you still have to drill the chassis.

Steve

Scotty-Boy

532 posts

221 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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Very simple task, but time consuming, so will cost a bob or two to get someone else to do it for you!

andygtt

8,345 posts

293 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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Is it just me that got satisfaction from drilling and rivting the alloy panels on then?....

As stev says you still have to drill and de-bur the chasis so the saving is minimal and the chance of the rivits being not in the right place will be increased.

pilbeam_mp62

955 posts

230 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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andygtt said:
Is it just me that got satisfaction from drilling and rivting the alloy panels on then?....
No, I enjoyed doing that as well - trmendous satisfaction as each panel went on - a few mistakes, but nothing drastic... I want to do as much as I can on my kit - there are certain jobs that I don't think I want to do, because if they go wrong....

For example, I am really not sure I want to have a go at the leather dashboard cover.... anyone know a travelling trimmer who would come to Lymington to do that job for me ?

Anyway, each to his own I guess...
Regards

Kelvin

Steve_D

13,802 posts

287 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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Great sense of satisfaction doing the panels. Filing a few thou. at a time to get a perfect fit around all the welds. Then standing back to see a significant move forward for your efforts.

O/T
pilbeam_mp62 said:
andygtt said:
.....I am really not sure I want to have a go at the leather dashboard cover....
Why is this a problem?
Bet your scared of all that leather covered in glue getting stuck everywhere it is not supposed too?

You don't do it like that. Mark with chalk where the centre is on both the dash and leather. Apply an inch wide strip of glue along the back of the sewn seam of the leather and a similar strip on the rolled edge of the dash. About 18" each side of centre. When tacky, start from the middle and apply.
If you are happy with its alignment apply some more glue and move on.
Nobody said you had to do it all in one go. The flat area on top does not need much glue as long as it is well glued at the edges.

Steve

pilbeam_mp62

955 posts

230 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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Steve,

That is some very good advice - thanks.

I notice that you are not a million miles away from where I am building my car (Milford-on-Sea) - I would be very happy to pay your petrol expenses and provide you with a good supply of tea, biscuits etc. if you would be interested to come and see how my build is getting on, one Saturday or Sunday (and maybe to help with the leather....)

Regards
Kelvin


Steve_D

13,802 posts

287 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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Happy to.

Steve

pilbeam_mp62

955 posts

230 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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Steve_D said:
Happy to.

Steve
Thanks Steve !
PM sent

andygtt

8,345 posts

293 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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Steve_D said:
Great sense of satisfaction doing the panels. Filing a few thou. at a time to get a perfect fit around all the welds. Then standing back to see a significant move forward for your efforts.

O/T
pilbeam_mp62 said:
andygtt said:
.....I am really not sure I want to have a go at the leather dashboard cover....
Why is this a problem?
Bet your scared of all that leather covered in glue getting stuck everywhere it is not supposed too?

You don't do it like that. Mark with chalk where the centre is on both the dash and leather. Apply an inch wide strip of glue along the back of the sewn seam of the leather and a similar strip on the rolled edge of the dash. About 18" each side of centre. When tacky, start from the middle and apply.
If you are happy with its alignment apply some more glue and move on.
Nobody said you had to do it all in one go. The flat area on top does not need much glue as long as it is well glued at the edges.

Steve
thats a random quote there steve... I ended up gluing my dash and door pads and enjoyed that as well lol

In fact I did pretty much everything on my Ultima even tho loads of it was new and daunting and loved every bit of it (the body was stressful at times tho lol)

fastka

156 posts

217 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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getting back to the holes and rivets...

how much swarf ends up inside the chassis after drilling?
any tips for getting rid of it?

i've never liked the idea of bare metal filings sitting inside the chassis tubes and rusting away

Steve_D

13,802 posts

287 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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There's nothing you can do to get the swarf out but you can drill the holes, deburr, spray Waxoyl or Dinitrol into the holes, solvent clean (brake cleaner) then bond and rivet. Don't forget the whole of the inside of the chassis tubes are bare metal so a little extra swarf is not going to make much difference.

Steve

738 driver

1,202 posts

222 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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Having gone with blind pop-rivets (sealed as they are often called) I dont think there is much more you can do other than already mentioned. The tubes can be protected inside with coatings but the welding process itself is one of the worst culprits for initiating corrosion (oxidation).... all our efforts are still compromised really!


Boron-steel wishbone tabs might be a good future option too!

Edited by 738 driver on Monday 2nd February 11:06


Edited by 738 driver on Monday 2nd February 11:14