Silencer packing
Silencer packing
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Steve_D

Original Poster:

13,802 posts

287 months

Monday 6th April 2009
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My boxes need repacking so it makes sense to have them modified so I can do it in the future.

What methods have been tried?

A panel on the top of the box is no doubt the simple solution but looks rather Heath Robinson. You could hide it by putting it on the underside but would need to take the pipes off each time.

Is there some way to make the box end removable and repack from there.

I have no idea what the internal layout is hence the questions.

Steve

60mph

254 posts

214 months

Monday 6th April 2009
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If you don't know the answer nobody else will !

Frank

V8OWNER

602 posts

264 months

Monday 6th April 2009
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Steve, On the Dax the tail pipe end of the exhaust was a slight interference fit into the silencer itself, this removable flange also supported the drilled exhaust pipe inside. To repack you just hit the flange of with a rubber mallet, pulled the old packing out and slid the new stuff in (easier than it sounds, used to use baking paper and tape to hold it together, pull the paper out afterwards..) I drilled and taped the jointed area to take a bolt, just to be sure it couldn't move.

I thought this was a very neat idea, and it looked like a once piece silencer.. I wonder if you could do something similar, maybe cut the last inch of the silencer and roll it smaller? - just an idea?

Ive defo seen a picture of the inside of a silencer on here.. but cant find it at the mo..

HTH .. G

Steve_D

Original Poster:

13,802 posts

287 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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No doubt I will find a company who can make a removable end plate but if the internal arrangement is such that you still can't get at the areas to stuff then it will not work.

If anybody else has seen photos then that would be great.

Steve

Steve_D

Original Poster:

13,802 posts

287 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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Just tried the crap search facility.
Searched 'silencer+pack' and it didn't even find this thread.

Steve

JoulesCanAm

330 posts

215 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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Steve_D said:
Just tried the crap search facility.
Searched 'silencer+pack' and it didn't even find this thread.

Steve
Thought I was being smart as this thread didn't contain the word 'pack' only 'repack', but a search with just 'silencer' didn't even bring up this thread confused

Graham-P

1,548 posts

275 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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Just had mine repacked by Hayward & Scott, they make a cut about 50mm in from the header end, sleeve it and bolt it. The internals are three tubes with a chamber at each end (much like the Magnaflow boxes)Ian is the man.
When my computer is back I'll post some pics.

ETA
Phil (PB3) cut the top of his silencers to repack them.

Edited by Graham-P on Tuesday 7th April 08:52

DHGTR

1,196 posts

272 months

Tuesday 7th April 2009
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Hi Steve

My boxes are repackable to, but i cut the tops off, i rather like the industrial look!!

Dave

Pb3

1,064 posts

275 months

Wednesday 8th April 2009
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Hi Steve, slagging my industrial look are you!

I have a panel top and bottom, held with 8 button heads. Need to do each side in order to get full access, which does make it a pain to repack.

DHGTR

1,196 posts

272 months

Wednesday 8th April 2009
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Pb3 said:
Hi Steve, slagging my industrial look are you!

I have a panel top and bottom, held with 8 button heads. Need to do each side in order to get full access, which does make it a pain to repack.
Ive only done the tops on mine, and yes you do need a bit of technique with a flexible 'packing tool' but you can still pack it fairly effectively,managed 94db on sva.

Steve_D

Original Poster:

13,802 posts

287 months

Wednesday 8th April 2009
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You guys who are actually doing it are in the best place to advise.

If packing from the top alone does not allow easy access to all the packing cavities would removing the end of the box make it any easier?

If I go the route of a cover on the top then what is the smallest cover I can get away with and where would it be positioned?

How do you seal it?

Where do you buy packing?

Cheers
Steve

DiscUltima

36 posts

224 months

Wednesday 8th April 2009
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Steve.. for our build, we bought fiberglass packing..
it was some brand called "Hi-Silent Fiberglass" found locally..

I bought like 4 packs costing total about $110 usd

(really didn't need to repack, but having gone thru the process
once to repack the standard Ultima mufflers, i'd suggest
wearing long sleeve shirts :P )




UltimaCH

3,181 posts

218 months

Wednesday 8th April 2009
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And a face mask yes

DiscUltima

36 posts

224 months

Wednesday 8th April 2009
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shd hv don the face mask, since fiberglass filaments supposedly bad for lung sacs :P
but our old packing material was tight enuf due to engine oil..

lesson: stick to and measure the prescribed amount of engine oil
especially for those of us who dont hv dipsticks on oil tanks!

DHGTR

1,196 posts

272 months

Wednesday 8th April 2009
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Hi Steve, i would say an 'end chop' would allow better packing as the vented pipes run the length of the box and you can pack down in a straight line. With my arrangement you have to sort of pack down the sides and underneath from the top (technique to be learned lol).
Phils arrangement you can get to both sides quite easily so packing probably isnt a problem.
With mine, i could repack in situ, with the other two i guess i would be better to take the boxes off.

I think my panel is 170mm x 250mmbut you basically want to cut as bigger opening as you can get. my cover is made from 1.6mm stainless and curved to the shape of the box. (picture poss tonight or over weekend).

I bought some wadding from Custom Chrome in Nuneaton and it cost about £15 have about enough for two repacks.

Dave

Stig

11,823 posts

313 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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Steve - I vaguely recall that bluesatin may have repackable cans on his? Maybe drop him a PM?

Edited by Stig on Thursday 9th April 13:27

bluesatin

3,115 posts

301 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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Sorry but Stig is wrong. Never did this.

DHGTR

1,196 posts

272 months

Friday 10th April 2009
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Hi Steves

Pics of my silencers.

Dave






738 driver

1,202 posts

222 months

Friday 10th April 2009
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That looks a neat and tidy re-pack job.
Steve, if you wanted to diguise the 'patch' a little more could you not just make the patch itself larger and have the majority of fixings along/near to the silencer centrelines? i.e the line of fastenings along the silencer sides.

Graham-P

1,548 posts

275 months

Sunday 12th April 2009
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Here's my re-packed silencers.





Edited by Graham-P on Tuesday 14th April 08:20