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Flip Martian

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22,600 posts

212 months

Sunday 29th May 2011
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Does anyone here use them instead of a home theatre set up? I'm thinking of upgrading soundwise from just having a flat screen tv and I must admit I'm not overly keen on having speakers on stands all over the place. I wondered how much of an improvement soundbars give before trailing round shops and comparing prices? I'm aware Yamaha have been putting out soundbars for a few years which offer pseudo 5.1 theatre sound - are these worth paying the extra for?

Any opinions welcome, please.

VEX

5,259 posts

268 months

Sunday 29th May 2011
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They are no real replacement for proper 5.1 systems but work well in situations like yours.

Have used Polk Soundbars usually and they work well using phase delay rather than reflected sound like the yamys.

Also saw an Artcoustic version this week which worked very well. Both need subs as well to enhance the bass performance.

V.

Flip Martian

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22,600 posts

212 months

Sunday 29th May 2011
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Interesting; never heard of either! Will do some research, ta.

Flip Martian

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212 months

Monday 30th May 2011
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Well Artcoustic seems out of my price range - my tv and blu ray combined don't cost anywhere near as much so seems a bit OTT for me to pay 4 figures for tv sound. smile I can probably stretch to around £700 for the right system if necessary but Polks seem to be all passive systems requiring a separate s/s receiver and I'm really after a one box solution solution (barring a possible separate bass unit).

shoggoth1

815 posts

287 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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Yamaha seem to be considered the leaders with their 'Digital Sound Projectors' - YSP-4100 and YSP-5100 being the latest.
I've been doing some similar research, my existing 5.1 set-up does not curry favour the girlfriend. So although I my be moving in my current system, alas, is not.

Flip Martian

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22,600 posts

212 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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Women who appreciate home theatre systems seem to be few and far between... smile

PlaneFan

180 posts

187 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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I got this one in 2009, from Derestrictor on Plotloss' advice. I love it. Does what I want it to do. Great sound, no wires, tidy and good. I'm sure it's not as good as all the speakers about the place, but it is perfect for my requirements.

Yamaha YSP 40D and subwoofer. There are newer ones now with extra features but I think the basic principle is the same.

http://www.whathifi.com/review/yamaha-ysp-40d/

Flip Martian

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22,600 posts

212 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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Thanks for that recommendation, will take a look. Do you get much in the way of pseudo surround sound, or just a far beefier, clearer sound than from the telly?

PlaneFan

180 posts

187 months

Tuesday 31st May 2011
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There are plenty of times when I look left and right in the room thinking I heard something, then realise it's in the film. It's very good, in my opinion.


Flip Martian

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22,600 posts

212 months

Wednesday 1st June 2011
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Thanks, that's useful. smile

[AJ]

3,079 posts

220 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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Been doing a bit of digging on the subject too, apparently the Marantz ES7001 does a good job, especially if your room isn't set up perfectly for bouncing sound.

http://www.whathifi.com/review/marantz-es7001

[Edit] - Ok, ignore that. Apparently the es7001 is no more! paperbag

Edited by [AJ] on Wednesday 22 June 12:22

Bonefish Blues

34,292 posts

245 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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Yes, exactly what we did with a Yamaha bar.

We're happy with the result, but it's very much pseudo so it has its shortcomings and doesn't compare to the real thing.

derestrictor

18,764 posts

283 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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Yamaha YSP-2200.

Trommel

20,373 posts

281 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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shoggoth1

815 posts

287 months

Thursday 23rd June 2011
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derestrictor said:
Yamaha YSP-2200.
Would a YSP-4100 (which is the same price now) with an external sub-woofer be an even better bet?

derestrictor

18,764 posts

283 months

Thursday 23rd June 2011
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Yes.

The YSP-2200 has received media attention and is the default-demanded product du jour but the difference is vast.

So long as you can avoid corner positioning, the ambient effects are remarkable whilst the scale of sound stage is in a different league.

There is no debate that these systems are an acoustic compromise but 41/5100 series are the best alternatives to physical, multi speaker arrays.


shoggoth1

815 posts

287 months

Thursday 23rd June 2011
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Ta. So is corner positioning *very* detrimental to the sound stage/quality or just a 'best avoided if you can' sort of deal?

derestrictor

18,764 posts

283 months

Thursday 23rd June 2011
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The sound quality remains intact but the surround staging falls away almost entirely.

shoggoth1

815 posts

287 months

Thursday 23rd June 2011
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Thanks again (bit of an arse regarding the surround sound aspects - but I was expecting as much).

spats

838 posts

177 months

Thursday 23rd June 2011
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Flip Martian said:
Women who appreciate home theatre systems seem to be few and far between... smile
Not to boast, but I have one smile She loves the 6.1 system im running and actually wants me to get a subwoofer too!