Sonos questions
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dirty boy

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14,818 posts

231 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Have I got this right...

Let's say I have the following equipment

iMac (storing all music)
iPhone (to use as a remote for iTunes on the iMac)
Sky HD
Wireless Router

If I then acquire the following...

2 x Sonos PLAY:3
Sonos CONNECT

Do I do this?

I plug the Sonos Connect into my router and the Sky HD box, I can then stream the audio from the Sky box to the two PLAY:3 speakers, making it a kind of mobile stereo for what i'm watching on TV.

(Currently I have a Bose Sounddock that's connected to the Sky box for 'better' sound)

Will that set up also allow me to stream music from my iMac to the two speakers, still using my iPhone as the remote?

Seems too simple.

Also, presumably, if the Connect is near the Sounddock, I could still utilise that as another output?

dirty boy

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14,818 posts

231 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Oh, and has anyone got one and can compare to the Bose Sounddock, are they similar sounding in any way?

The reason i'm thinking two Play 3s is because I see together they support stereo sound, but still gives me the ability to take one down the garden for when we BBQ etc.

All sounds a bit too perfect.

anonymous-user

76 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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Not sure about your sky question but the other is YES.

I'm about to get a bridge to form the Sonos wireless network and then a play 5 for the kitchen and to take in the garden for BBQs which will play all my iTunes music.

They are very good!

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 22 November 11:54

anonymous-user

76 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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Just to add - if you download the "remote" app from the AppStore then that will control iTunes via WiFi

danyeates

7,248 posts

244 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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I have an Apple Airport Extreme Base Station connected to several Apple Airport Express' around the house and an Apple TV 2 in the lounge. It's a fairly cheap way of doing it and it all runs at N band 5gHz 300mbps so it’s pretty quick. I can either play FROM my iPhone or Airplay, or control the iMac with my iPhone remote app. I can also select which Express is playing the music around the house. You simply rename the Express units to the room of the house and connect each of them to a stereo system.

It all works so well together, I’m surprised Apple don’t advertise it more. It’s a much cheaper solution than Sonos. About £80 for each Express. However, it will only stream from an iTunes library or Airplay from an iOS device, not from another device. As an advantage it will stream from Spotify or other apps on the iPhone though.

kingston12

5,675 posts

179 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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Only get the Sonos Connect (aka ZP90) if you definitely plan to use the output. It is £280 and the Sonos Bridge for £40 will attach to your router and 'run' the Sonos system just as well.

The sound quality of the Play 3 is up there with the Sounddock, but the ability to run as a stereo pair takes it to a completely different level.

kingston12

5,675 posts

179 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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danyeates said:
I have an Apple Airport Extreme Base Station connected to several Apple Airport Express' around the house and an Apple TV 2 in the lounge. It's a fairly cheap way of doing it and it all runs at N band 5gHz 300mbps so it’s pretty quick. I can either play FROM my iPhone or Airplay, or control the iMac with my iPhone remote app. I can also select which Express is playing the music around the house. You simply rename the Express units to the room of the house and connect each of them to a stereo system.

It all works so well together, I’m surprised Apple don’t advertise it more. It’s a much cheaper solution than Sonos. About £80 for each Express. However, it will only stream from an iTunes library or Airplay from an iOS device, not from another device. As an advantage it will stream from Spotify or other apps on the iPhone though.
This is a good point, and is definitely worth trying as it is much cheaper and has a better interface the Sonos.

For me, it was the only Apple product that I have never been able to get working reliably, hence the Sonos investment, but that might be more to do with my network than anything else.

dirty boy

Original Poster:

14,818 posts

231 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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Thanks for that.

System sounds ideal, if only lacking a sub for a bit of bass.

danyeates

7,248 posts

244 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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kingston12 said:
This is a good point, and is definitely worth trying as it is much cheaper and has a better interface the Sonos.

For me, it was the only Apple product that I have never been able to get working reliably, hence the Sonos investment, but that might be more to do with my network than anything else.
I know I found it difficult to get working reliably at my girlfriend’s parents house. They were connecting Express’ with a BT router and were getting IP address conflicts. I opted for an Apple Airport Extreme router, connected to my Sky router in bridge mode, so the complete network is all Apple and all works perfectly together. I have so many wifi devices in the house I wanted to have simultaneous N (2.4gHz and 5gHz) and G 2.4gHZ networks all working together. I have 3x iPhones, 1x iMac 27, 1x Macbook Pro, Sky wifi for Anytime +, Panasonic TV wifi, Panasonic bluray wifi, PS3, Xbox 360, and the Express’ so quite a few devices! The Express’, iMac and Moacbook all work on 5gHz N band wifi so it keeps that network relatively uncluttered and quick. I find Apple stuff loves working with other Apple stuff, but can be tricky to sometimes integrate with other equipment.

kingston12

5,675 posts

179 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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danyeates said:
I find Apple stuff loves working with other Apple stuff, but can be tricky to sometimes integrate with other equipment.
I generally find that too, but the music streaming on my Express was bad, even though I have an Airport Extreme Router. The Express works well as a Wifi extender now.

It is also worth mentioning the Apple TV units. These are a credible Sonos alternatives in their own right, but are often overlooked because people think that they will have to turn on their TV just to listen to music. This isn't the case as they can be directly controlled from iPhone/iPad and the video streaming is a bonus!

The main thing that Sonos does that the Apple stuff can't is synchronised multi-room play. I reckon Apple could add this in the future, though.

danyeates

7,248 posts

244 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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kingston12 said:
I generally find that too, but the music streaming on my Express was bad, even though I have an Airport Extreme Router. The Express works well as a Wifi extender now.

It is also worth mentioning the Apple TV units. These are a credible Sonos alternatives in their own right, but are often overlooked because people think that they will have to turn on their TV just to listen to music. This isn't the case as they can be directly controlled from iPhone/iPad and the video streaming is a bonus!

The main thing that Sonos does that the Apple stuff can't is synchronised multi-room play. I reckon Apple could add this in the future, though.
Yep, Apple TV 2 is great. Especially with my iPhone 4S. Airplay mirroring is brilliant, especially in games that fully support it.

BenM77

2,835 posts

186 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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+1 for the appletv2

It is alot more versatile than an airport express, it acts like a device and loads the film/music onto it for smoother playback.

Because of this I can have music or films on three different appletv's all at the same time from one computer, it works very well.

With an airport express, the computer is tied up streaming to it. You can do multi room from iTunes aswell.

DoctorX

7,971 posts

189 months

Sunday 11th December 2011
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Thinking about getting a Sonos S5 - can someone clarify something for me?

Will it stream content from an iPhone or can it only be controlled from it (i.e. the music is being streamed from the computer, which must be switched on)?

Thanks

VEX

5,259 posts

268 months

Sunday 11th December 2011
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One piece of Sonos kit has to be hardwired to a router.

Then you would need to use their iPod dock to get audio off the iPod/phone.

Alternatively you could point the Sonos at your iTunes directory on a pc to see all your music.

There is an alternative solution due next year. That can stepream from a blue tooth device, but it is not launched yet.

V.

DoctorX

7,971 posts

189 months

Sunday 11th December 2011
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VEX said:
One piece of Sonos kit has to be hardwired to a router.

Then you would need to use their iPod dock to get audio off the iPod/phone.

Alternatively you could point the Sonos at your iTunes directory on a pc to see all your music.

There is an alternative solution due next year. That can stepream from a blue tooth device, but it is not launched yet.

V.
Thanks for that. £5/month Napster account methinks.

VEX

5,259 posts

268 months

Sunday 11th December 2011
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Napster is a perfect solution, thumbup

Been listening to Christmas music all day with the kids while decorating the house xmas

V.

dxg

10,026 posts

282 months

Monday 12th December 2011
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Another vote for the apple-based system here.

I've got a mac mini hidden away upstairs, an appletv2 in a bedroom, an old airport express in the kitchen and a lovely bit of software on the *windows* pc (airfoil) which emulates the airplay protocol and it all works.

All controlled direct from the mini using screen sharing, from an ipod touch that I use as a pda (remember those?) or, another (older) ipod nestled in a bluelounge minidock which sits in a wall socket in the kitchen.

It's lovely. All patched together from bits and bobs lying around.