Plasma TVs

[Rob287]

The initial message was deleted from this topic on 26 December 2021 at 14:17

[ally_f]

I think some people just like to scaremonger. I've got several plasmas, the oldest is a 5-6 year old Samsung 42". They all get plenty of use and get screens left on them when I forget to turn off the Xbox etc. and all of them are quite happy and ging strong. I think the picture is far better and with a better viewing angle than LCD (I also have a few weeks old 32" Toshiba LCD). So Plasma all the way for me.

[Mr E]

Rob287 said:

Are plasma televisions as bad as people would have you believe?

I wasn't aware that they were?

Rob287 said:

'pub talk'

Ah.

Rob287 said:

but my mates and everyone tell me it will definately burn in and I need to re-gas every other hour. Do they need re-gassing?

They are mistaken.

[Rob287]

ally_f said:

I think some people just like to scaremonger. I've got several plasmas, the oldest is a 5-6 year old Samsung 42". They all get plenty of use and get screens left on them when I forget to turn off the Xbox etc. and all of them are quite happy and ging strong. I think the picture is far better and with a better viewing angle than LCD (I also have a few weeks old 32" Toshiba LCD). So Plasma all the way for me.

This is what I think too. Do you need to re-gas them? I've heard of this before but I only thought it was the older plasma screens which required this, not the new ones.

I just had a Virgin engineer around putting some things in and he overheard me say to my partner I was going for a plasma and his response was "You don't want that mate, re-gassing is as expensive as the tele itself."

Edited by Rob287 on Thursday 26th January 13:41

[skoff]

Pretty much all nonsense.

Look at it this way - do you know one single person who has had a plasma TV 're-gassed'? If you Google it can you find a single company offering the service?

Plasma is burn also a non-issue - maybe on the very very first TVs there might have been a small chance of this, but for a long long time it just doesn't happen. they all have systems to protect the screen be it a pixel shift system, or an image retention cleaner - I have never had any image retention, even temporary and I have spent hours and hours playing video games with static images like health bars on screen.

The only thing I had a tiny problem with when I bought my Plasma several years ago were sometimes seeing green/yellow flashes, mostly when using my xbox. This stopped happening after a couple of weeks, either my eyes adapted, or the TV stopped doing it, or maybe I stopped critiquing every image in detail. Actually it's hardly worth mentioning, and I think I only saw then because I had read about them.

Anyway, there are no good reasons for not buying a Plasma if the TV you have seen gives you the image you prefer...

[gifdy]

I've had a Panasonic Plasma for 5 years now. Still a great picture. I also recently bought an LCD for another room. Overall I prefer the picture on the Plasma, it seems 'warmer' (struggling to put it in words). The LCD picture seems harsher or sharper, but not in a good way. I've had many comments on what a good picture the plasma has from vistors who have an LCD. The only downside to the Plasma is it isn't great at blacks. Not as deep as the LCD.

Oh , and never been re-gassed, whatever that is.

[Ali2202]

Just moved from a 5 year old Panny Plasma which we thought really carried a great picture to this...

http://www.electricshop.com/invt/ue55d8000?source=...

Gob.Truly.Smacked!

After a bit of tweaking via advice on the web we now have a picture that makes the jaw drop.

I know I've not really answered the question..

[mrmr96]

gifdy said:

The only downside to the Plasma is it isn't great at blacks. Not as deep as the LCD.

I thought blacks would generally be better on a plasma?

[cheddar]

Never had a problem, even with my old cheap 42 plasma.

Just bought my second one - a Panny 50 Gt30 - and it's brilliant.

[gifdy]

mrmr96 said:

gifdy said:

The only downside to the Plasma is it isn't great at blacks. Not as deep as the LCD.

I thought blacks would generally be better on a plasma?

No idea, but they're not on mine. The gradient isn't smooth and you get swirly artifacts. Not generally an issue unless you are watching spooky films or sci-fi

[Apache]

mrmr96 said:

gifdy said:

The only downside to the Plasma is it isn't great at blacks. Not as deep as the LCD.

I thought blacks would generally be better on a plasma?

try one, I have a new 43" Sammy and it is superb

[mrmr96]

gifdy said:

mrmr96 said:

gifdy said:

The only downside to the Plasma is it isn't great at blacks. Not as deep as the LCD.

I thought blacks would generally be better on a plasma?

No idea, but they're not on mine. The gradient isn't smooth and you get swirly artifacts. Not generally an issue unless you are watching spooky films or sci-fi

Dunno if this article is still valid?
http://reviews.cnet.com/4351-12658_7-6583301.html

CNET said:

Black-level performance (depth of "black" displayed)

Plasma: Varies, although excellent on many models.

LCD: Varies, although generally worse than plasma on many models. LED backlights with local dimming offer significantly deeper blacks.

[BertB]

I've had a plasma for getting on for 3 years, play loads of video games and never had an issue with retention.

The only thing that has come close to worrying me is after watching a film, the black bars from the top and bottom could be seen after it finished, however changing to another input or channel for a few minutes the bars are gone. This was bad to begin with but seems to go much quicker now.

[PJ S]

Plasma is still king.
Black levels on Plasma panels has improved dramatically in that timeframe, LED backlighting on LCDs is close, but not yet on parity.
Motion resolution - full 1080 lines on Plasma,700-800 on LCD, so no image smearing.
Screenburn - not the same thing as temporary image retention - not likely to be seen on current Plasmas, but did affect older Pioneers prior to Kuro models. Panasonics always been more resilient.
Re-gassing - Nothing further needs to be said!

Unless you're shopping at the upper end of the market (not talking about Loewe or B&O) then you're not going to see an LCD TV coming close to similarly priced or cheaper Plasmas.

[_dobbo_]

Rob287 said:

Salesman tell me not to believe the 'pub talk'

These salesmen are cretins and liars.

[Mark.]

Mr E said:

Rob287 said:

but my mates and everyone tell me it will definately burn in and I need to re-gas every other hour. Do they need re-gassing?

They are mistaken.

They are mistaken, but just mess with them. OLCD are the 'new' TV's but tell them to make sure the food flap to feed the organics is on the top - on some of the cheaper sets it's at the back and you can spill fish flakes on the carpet.

[Mr E]

Mark. said:

Mr E said:

Rob287 said:

but my mates and everyone tell me it will definately burn in and I need to re-gas every other hour. Do they need re-gassing?

They are mistaken.

They are mistaken, but just mess with them. OLCD are the 'new' TV's but tell them to make sure the food flap to feed the organics is on the top - on some of the cheaper sets it's at the back and you can spill fish flakes on the carpet.

This is a splendid plan. What bullst can we think up?

OLED is excellent, but you have to unplug it every week and put the plug in a pint of water. The set needs to ionise the water and store the ions for best performance. Only takes an hour, but you can leave it overnight for best results.

[Mark.]

Mr E said:

This is a splendid plan. What bullst can we think up?

OLED is excellent, but you have to unplug it every week and put the plug in a pint of water. The set needs to ionise the water and store the ions for best performance. Only takes an hour, but you can leave it overnight for best results.

[Goa'uld]

Mr E said:

This is a splendid plan. What bullst can we think up?

OLED is excellent, but you have to unplug it every week and put the plug in a pint of water. The set needs to ionise the water and store the ions for best performance. Only takes an hour, but you can leave it overnight for best results.

What temperature should the water be? My pal is having trouble getting the correct warm vs cool picture balance and this sounds like it could possibly kill two birds with one stone.

[Apache]

Some plasmas need their gas replaced as new rules mean they are no longer compliant with EU regulations, this can be expensive but it should be seen as an opportunity to replace the old gas with modern, more vividly coloured gas, which will enhance the picture considerably.