Aerial wall plates
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Ian Geary

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5,366 posts

215 months

Wednesday 25th July 2012
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Evening all

I have Virgin media cable, and a TV aerial coming in the wall on one side of my living room.

I need them on the other side though.

I intend to route them outside the house, round the side, and back in again. This gives me the opportunity to mount a wall plate for the connectors.

I've seen plates with both a F type satellite, and normal co-axial connector, but these look like they're driven by the same input cable - i.e. one source in the back going to both the satellite and coaxial connector.

Question: can anyone confirm if this is the case?



The virgin signal is different to the free view TV aerial, and so to keep them separate, I'd need 2 separate wall plates, which will be messier, and more chisseling.


Any help appreciated

Ian





craigjm

20,442 posts

223 months

Wednesday 25th July 2012
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Why not save yourself the effort and just route them under the flooring or through a conduit around the skirting?

mattdaniels

7,362 posts

305 months

Wednesday 25th July 2012
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You need "100-00677 Maxview screened UHF TV + SAT non-isolated* wall plate £6.95" from here:

http://www.satcure.co.uk/accs/wall_plates.htm

It's not a diplexer so needs two cables run to it.

You can also get the cable from them, and cable entry covers where the cables come in through the exterior brick:

http://www.satcure.co.uk/accs/page8.htm#tidy

Ian Geary

Original Poster:

5,366 posts

215 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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thanks for the replies

Craig - the floor is solid concrete, and there's a patio door between the points in question with very little free board available.


Matt - thanks for the links, that site is useful. I might get a box to combine the sat and Tv aeriel together inside, then I'd only need one cable going outside, and can use the face plate to split the signal apart when it comes back in.


Ian

TonyRPH

13,460 posts

191 months

Saturday 28th July 2012
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You can't combine the SAT without a special box, as the SAT cable carries DC voltage to power the LNB on the dish.

The Virgin cable won't work if combined with anything else either, and Virgin get very upset if you muck about with their cables (I speak from experience).



Edited by TonyRPH on Monday 30th July 08:12

VEX

5,259 posts

269 months

Sunday 29th July 2012
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You also cant combine the virgin signals with an aerial signals as the both use the same frequency range so will clash if they are combined.

You will have to run two cables.

V.

TonyRPH

13,460 posts

191 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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VEX said:
You also cant combine the virgin signals with an aerial signals as the both use the same frequency range so will clash if they are combined.

You will have to run two cables.

V.
It's nothing to do with being on the same frequency range.

As I understand it, the Virgin cable system is a 'closed loop' system, which requires critical impedance matching all along 'the line' as it were.


VEX

5,259 posts

269 months

Monday 30th July 2012
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It has everything to do with frequency, because that will cause the interference with the virgin signal.

The impedance of a catv system, tv aerials and satellites are all 75ohm impedance. Yes the virgin systems have to be set up or balanced properly and the return path can get buggered if you add more cable or connections / plates to it. Which will have a detrimental effect on your broadband and some telephone services but also, unknown to most it will also effect other people on the same section of the network as you.

V.

Ian Geary

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5,366 posts

215 months

Saturday 4th August 2012
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OK, thanks for that

It is a Virgin signal I'm moving, so no power needed in it. I'm not moving their box on the wall, just basically extending and re-routing the cable between the modem splitter, and the set top box.


I'd seen a chart on a site showing how cable, FM stereo and TV freeview were on different frequencies.

But if I need two cables, then it will just need more boxes, and more drilling.


Ian