Stupid smart TV question
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A month ago I would have said the same as others 'ignore 3d'
But picked up a new LG just after Christmas and as the ps3 does 3d I borrowed a couple of blurays from a friend and gave it a go.
Watching with the girls (4, 6 and 46) we watched 'tangled' and there where no silly thing trying to poke at you and swimming around your head. However the depth it gave to a movie was fantastic and very watchable (LG's use a passive glasses system to no filickering to do my head in)
So much so I have bought the girls thre others off amazon to watch and I am looking out for others for me and 46 year old to watch.
So what am I saying, I suppose, don't knock it until you've tried it for yourself in you home, where you can actually relax and enjoy it.
V.
But picked up a new LG just after Christmas and as the ps3 does 3d I borrowed a couple of blurays from a friend and gave it a go.
Watching with the girls (4, 6 and 46) we watched 'tangled' and there where no silly thing trying to poke at you and swimming around your head. However the depth it gave to a movie was fantastic and very watchable (LG's use a passive glasses system to no filickering to do my head in)
So much so I have bought the girls thre others off amazon to watch and I am looking out for others for me and 46 year old to watch.
So what am I saying, I suppose, don't knock it until you've tried it for yourself in you home, where you can actually relax and enjoy it.
V.
VEX said:
LG's use a passive glasses system to no filickering to do my head in
It's not just the flickering. The 3D effect is an optical illusion. The brain translates the two images into 3D but the eyes are focused at a fixed distance. After a while, for some, the brain decides it's had enough, hence "my brain hurts".VEX said:
So what am I saying, I suppose, don't knock it until you've tried it for yourself in you home, where you can actually relax and enjoy it.
V.
A couple of months ago we got a 55 inch Panasonic plasma - VT50. The ONLY factor I was interested in was 2D picture quality. Got one of the best Panasonic blu ray players as well to ensure best possible blu ray playback. I had NO interest in 3D. Sure enough the 2D quality is amazing - has to be the best screen out there - especially in THX mode in a room that's not too bright (which ours isn't).V.
Got Avatar 3D free with the player, so just to see what it was like, put it on in 3D. I was shocked how good it was - pardon the pun, but it gave a whole new dimension to watching films. Have since got quite a few 3D films and both ourselves and quite a few friends love watching them.
I also got a PS3, and I have to say that some of the 3D enabled games are really good - GT5, Motorstorm Apocalypse, de Blob 2 (for when younger guests come round), and even playing Pro Evo Soccer 2013 is a laugh in 3D.
I was not that impressed having a look at 3D in the shops, but it's a different deal at home.
Whilst some people will not like it, as VEX says, don't knock the idea of it until you've tried it at home - either your own, or a friend's. You just might be very surprised.
VEX said:
Well that ain't gonna happen.
No glasses yes.
Any angle, no chance.
But your not supposed to watch movies from any angle anyway.
V.
Yes it is but silly prices right nowNo glasses yes.
Any angle, no chance.
But your not supposed to watch movies from any angle anyway.
V.
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Out of interest - I'll be getting two free anyway: http://promotions.panasonic.co.uk/offer/smart-vier...
GetCarter said:
Out of interest - I'll be getting two free anyway: http://promotions.panasonic.co.uk/offer/smart-vier...
Yup. Panasonic still offering the 5 year warranty as well?anonymous said:
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Agree 100%. Used to have an AV store, but closed it about 12 months ago. The early Panasonic TV demo discs were obviously filmed purely for the 3D experience, eg white water rafting, camera behind goal , a few flying scenes etc We then had a free feed for the French Open tennis and to be honest it was dire.
When the Avatar demo disc arrived, I kept showing the same scene, some fluttering white things, I seem to recall, as it was the only clip where the 3D effect worked really well. At this time I came to the conclusion that it was a very very limited market.
Where it goes from here, who knows. I do recall that the investment has been huge, so whether the likes of Panasonic will continue with it, remains to be seen.
Did anyone see any olympics content?
We got a 42" Panasonic about a year ago, which came with free glasses, 3D bluray player etc. even though we had no interest in 3D. Last week a friend came round who was keen to see what it was like so we found the glasses and gave it a try. All I can say is that it lived down to my expectation in every way, and flickered so badly it was basically unwatchable. If you get offered the glasses free take them - they do go for money on Ebay.
FlossyThePig said:
It's not just the flickering. The 3D effect is an optical illusion. The brain translates the two images into 3D but the eyes are focused at a fixed distance. After a while, for some, the brain decides it's had enough, hence "my brain hurts".
This is so true. I tried at a friends house and instantly goes sore eyes and a headache.Just horrible.
Driller said:
This is so true. I tried at a friends house and instantly goes sore eyes and a headache.
Just horrible.
I guess there are a couple of factors which may explain why some people really get on with 3D and others really dislike it.Just horrible.
1. People are different - 2 people can look at exactly the same equipment and experience completely different reactions to it. Whilst obviously a big fan of it myself, Mrs C&C is not as keen and does find that her eyes get tired towards the end of a 3D movie, so despite the fact she really likes the 3D effect, sometimes we'll watch in 3D and others we'll watch in 2D.
On the other hand, my niece (who's 21) came round recently and we must have spent a good 4-5 hours solid watching a 3D film and playing various PS3 games in 3D. Neither of us had a problem with fatigue - except maybe my hands from pressing the PS3 controller buttons alot!
2. The technology is developing rapidly. I have certainly read reports that even the 2011 series of Panasonic plasmas had issues with crosstalk and flicker with their 3D glasses. Apparently the 2012 series is vastly improved with flicker and crosstalk pretty much eliminated - I certainly have not seen evidence of these issues. As we only moved from our old CRT to plasma a few months ago and went for the Panasonic 55" VT50, when I am talking about my views on 3D I only have the experience of the latest generation of Panasonic's "best" in non-professional monitors. The technology is only going to improve and it is early days for 3D, so it may well be that as time passes more people may get on better with 3D due to these improvements - whether that's with or without glasses.
Finally, one last comment on live action as opposed to CGI produced stuff as mentioned in posts above (again this is my personal experience). I agree that some of the CGI stuff looks great, and maybe it's easier to produce in 3D, but I'va also been impressed with some of the live action as well. I know this may sound strange, but we were watching the PDC Darts live on Sky 3D over christmas, and somewhat surprisingly, it worked really well. Apart from the darts themselves, the shots where they pan over the audience with a camera on a boom really felt like you were in the audience. Switching to 2D felt like you were looking at a very flat picture of a crowd - which you were. There was a distinct lack of involvement in comparison to the 3D.
As ever, the above is only my opinion, and I know that many people disagree/have different experiences, but that is exactly the point of these type of discussions.
PS - GetCarter - If you are going for a plasma as stated in your original post, and you are most concerned about picture quality (not surprising given the amazing quality of the photos you produce), then for stunning 2D picture quality with really dark blacks and natural colours, I think you will struggle to better the Panasonic VT50, although it's not available in 60 inch - only 55 inch or 65 inch. Oh, and once you've got the screen, you might also want to consider getting it professionally calibrated for your environment to really get the most out of it - something I'll be doing soon with ours.
Cheers,
Conrad.
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