Full HD, HD ready?
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funkyboogalooo

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291 months

Sunday 24th February 2013
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Could someone Please explain the difference between full HD and HD ready to me please?
Thanks
Mike

davepoth

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222 months

Sunday 24th February 2013
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I think full HD is 1080p, HD ready is 720p. Seems to be that way based on the two TVs in the house.

Dr Doofenshmirtz

16,646 posts

223 months

Monday 25th February 2013
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Full HD = usually means it can receive Freeview HD, as well as display 1080p from another device.
HD Ready = You can plug it into something like a Blu Ray player and it'll display full 1080p, but it won't receive Freeview HD.
...I think?

Edited by Dr Doofenshmirtz on Monday 25th February 12:09

freecar

4,249 posts

210 months

Monday 25th February 2013
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davepoth said:
I think full HD is 1080p, HD ready is 720p. Seems to be that way based on the two TVs in the house.
This.

talkssense

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225 months

Monday 25th February 2013
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Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
Full HD = usually means it can receive Freeview HD, as well as display 1080p from another device.
HD Ready = You can plug it into something like a Blu Ray player and it'll display full 1080p, but it won't receive Freeview HD.
...I think?

Edited by Dr Doofenshmirtz on Monday 25th February 12:09
Not this

funkyboogalooo

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Monday 25th February 2013
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Thanks all.

Digger

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214 months

Monday 25th February 2013
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So why on earth call it HD Ready then? Daft is what it be!

OldSkoolRS

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202 months

Monday 25th February 2013
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Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
Full HD = usually means it can receive Freeview HD, as well as display 1080p from another device.
HD Ready = You can plug it into something like a Blu Ray player and it'll display full 1080p, but it won't receive Freeview HD.
...I think?
As already said, this isn't the case. I have an older 1080p 'Full HD' TV that can't receive Freeview HD (unless using a separate box). However I also noticed that a set I was looking at for a bedroom has got a Freeview HD tuner built in, but is a 720p display (so therefore 'HD ready') just to add to the confusion. silly

http://www.rgbdirect.co.uk/Products/Television/LED...

Digger

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214 months

Monday 25th February 2013
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Isn't Sky HD 1080i ?

OldSkoolRS

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202 months

Monday 25th February 2013
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Digger said:
Isn't Sky HD 1080i ?
I believe it is as is pretty much all of Freeview HD. However there are some 1080p broadcasts on Freeview HD as occasionally it shows up as 1080p in the info bar on my Humax HD PVR (I remember reading about it somewhere too, but can't find the thread on AVforums).

To be fair there are plenty of BluRays that are 1080i as well (usually documentaries and concert discs) though most BluRay 'films' are 1080/24p (Full HD if you will).

OldSkoolRS

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202 months

Monday 25th February 2013
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I'm not mad, I found this news item confirming that BBC broadcast in 1080p some of the time:

http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/bbc-begin-broad...

EDIT: I'm pretty sure that UK Sky content is 1080i though I know in the USA they have some 720p broadcasts as well (possibly via other providers).

Glosphil

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257 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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The manual for my mother's 32" Panasonic TV, and the sticker on the rear of the set, state that it is 'HD ready' and the resolution is 1366x768 . It is 16:9 but hardly HD. There are a number of sets on the market with this resolution and all are stated to be 'HD ready'.

Laplace

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205 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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Sky is 1080i50 afaik and the HD freesat channels are capable of both 1080i50 and 1080p25.

There are situations where 720p50 is going to look better than 1080i50 but due to poor marketing we're all hung of on Full HD when temporal resoution is equally as important but rarely mentioned.

1080i seems to be a decent trade off as I can't see Sky transmitting 1080p50 any time soon (ever) and they say as much on their forums. However I'd like to see them display sport in 720p50 as I think they do in the states.

Pints

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217 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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Very useful, especially next time I have to hear (from the FiL) that I shouldn't be so mean to the wife and kids, and get them a proper HD TV. Apparently 720p is just not good enough for his offspring.

Mr_Yogi

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278 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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No all UK HD TV is 1080i or 1080p as stated above. Maybe some US shows are recorded at 720p?

Sky broadcast 1080i, I know BBC HD now dynamically switch from 1080i50 to 1080p25 during some programs. I seem to recall it screwing up some Sony sets when they first introduced it.

Edited by Mr_Yogi on Tuesday 26th February 11:46

Super Slo Mo

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221 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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As others have said, SKY is 1080i50. SKY Sports are definitely shot in 1080i50, it's very rare that a camera is set to capture anything else.

1080p requires twice as much bit rate (at max, obviously it it compressed for transmission), so at the moment it doesn't get used very much, although I daresay it's possible to upscale.

Next big thing is going to be 4K anyway.

megaphone

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274 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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I'm surprised there has not been some sort of legal action taken against companies who market TV's as Full HD or HD ready when they do not have an HD tuner. Surely it breaches some sort of trade description legislation.

Super Slo Mo

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Tuesday 26th February 2013
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megaphone said:
I'm surprised there has not been some sort of legal action taken against companies who market TV's as Full HD or HD ready when they do not have an HD tuner. Surely it breaches some sort of trade description legislation.
HD is simply resolution. As long as the TV is able to accept incoming HD signals (Blue ray, Satellite, Set top box), that's all that's required.

Laplace

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205 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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Glosphil said:
The manual for my mother's 32" Panasonic TV, and the sticker on the rear of the set, state that it is 'HD ready' and the resolution is 1366x768 . It is 16:9 but hardly HD. There are a number of sets on the market with this resolution and all are stated to be 'HD ready'.
You're right and depending on the tvs ability to scale the image is going to be the deal breaker.

I read a good article on this a while ago and I'm sure the author wanted answers as to why the industry could market these tvs as hd ready as that resolution never has or will be a native HD resolution.

tankplanker

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302 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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Which native resolution for TV to go for is dependant on what source material you'll be watching and the ratio of TV Size vs. distance you'll normally sit from the TV.

The closer you sit or the bigger the TV then the greater the resolution will need to be in order for it to look good.

Obviously a crap 1080p TV is unlikely to look as good as an excellent 720p TV as well. Also if you only watch SD sources then unless you invest in a good, separate upscaler you aren't going to be noticing much of a difference between 720p and 1080p.

I would suggest waiting if you want to buy a new TV, 4k is just around the corner so you will be able to buy a decent 4k set and be future proof or buy an older HD set for less than you currently can as its old tech.