Sonos over a VPN
Discussion
House A has your usual Sonos setup, a NAS and a Vigor router connected to broadband.
House B has a Sonos zone and a Vigor router.
The Vigor routers can create a site-to-site VPN, so is there any reason why the Sonos zone in house B wouldn't be able to use the NAS in house A for its source?
Thinking in the context of a holiday home, where taking all your music with you is a pain.
House B has a Sonos zone and a Vigor router.
The Vigor routers can create a site-to-site VPN, so is there any reason why the Sonos zone in house B wouldn't be able to use the NAS in house A for its source?
Thinking in the context of a holiday home, where taking all your music with you is a pain.
Bandwidth and latency would probably be the main problem here.
If you've got some mega-fast fibre based broadband (e.g. 10mbps upload speed min) with latency of less than 10ms then you'll probably be alright... but for us mere mortals with normal broadband it'll probably not work.
Google Music?
If you've got some mega-fast fibre based broadband (e.g. 10mbps upload speed min) with latency of less than 10ms then you'll probably be alright... but for us mere mortals with normal broadband it'll probably not work.
Google Music?
It depends...
As far as I know, Sonos use their own protocol on the network and this may or may not be 'routable'.
A little Googling and it appears Sonos uses SSDP (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Service_Discovery_Protocol) which is a multi-cast IP protcol.
So if you can VPN the two sites and route multi-cast packets between them it might work!
As far as I know, Sonos use their own protocol on the network and this may or may not be 'routable'.
A little Googling and it appears Sonos uses SSDP (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Service_Discovery_Protocol) which is a multi-cast IP protcol.
So if you can VPN the two sites and route multi-cast packets between them it might work!
cornet said:
Quick google reveals that in theory you can run Sonos over VPN but it would need to be a layer 2 VPN which bridges the network (so the appear as one physical network).
OpenVPN can do this if you have a computer each end but most routers will not support it (they do layer 3 VPN only).
Apparently some of the vigor models support L2TP VPNs so this would be possible, depending on whether the OPs model supports it.OpenVPN can do this if you have a computer each end but most routers will not support it (they do layer 3 VPN only).
ukwill said:
cornet said:
Quick google reveals that in theory you can run Sonos over VPN but it would need to be a layer 2 VPN which bridges the network (so the appear as one physical network).
OpenVPN can do this if you have a computer each end but most routers will not support it (they do layer 3 VPN only).
Apparently some of the vigor models support L2TP VPNs so this would be possible, depending on whether the OPs model supports it.OpenVPN can do this if you have a computer each end but most routers will not support it (they do layer 3 VPN only).
Note that expect all sorts of fun when setting this up both places become effectively one physical network so expect fun with things like DHCP servers etc... Unless you know what you're doing you're going to be tearing your hair out with all sorts of fun issues.
The way I would do this (assuming you aways have internet at your holiday home) is to do the following.
- Get a low powered computer (Pi maybe) + external HDD to live in the holiday home which you can leave on all the time
- Copy your music collection onto the external HDD and take it to the holiday home
- Use http://labs.bittorrent.com/experiments/sync.html to keep them in sync
cornet said:
Ah didn't know that, not used any of the Vigor routers. Would need to check they allow bridging of both networks.
Note that expect all sorts of fun when setting this up both places become effectively one physical network so expect fun with things like DHCP servers etc... Unless you know what you're doing you're going to be tearing your hair out with all sorts of fun issues.
The way I would do this (assuming you aways have internet at your holiday home) is to do the following.
Or just use Spotify Note that expect all sorts of fun when setting this up both places become effectively one physical network so expect fun with things like DHCP servers etc... Unless you know what you're doing you're going to be tearing your hair out with all sorts of fun issues.
The way I would do this (assuming you aways have internet at your holiday home) is to do the following.
- Get a low powered computer (Pi maybe) + external HDD to live in the holiday home which you can leave on all the time
- Copy your music collection onto the external HDD and take it to the holiday home
- Use http://labs.bittorrent.com/experiments/sync.html to keep them in sync
Cloud FTW!
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