Dead Speaker - repair possible?
Dead Speaker - repair possible?
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Bebop Beru

Original Poster:

157 posts

175 months

Thursday 20th June 2013
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Evening all,

Having just moved and intending to set up the lounge with surround sound, I find my Satellite speaker this one has died.

Are they repairable or is it better off buying a new one?

Cheers

CDP

8,019 posts

277 months

Thursday 20th June 2013
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You don't describe the unit or fault very well - is it active or passive? Silent or distorted?

If it's passive it's likely to be just something like a broken wire or connector which can be fixed easily by you with a soldering iron. Unless it's a duff speaker coil which will show up as zero or infinite resistance on the connectors on the back of the cone itself.

Bebop Beru

Original Poster:

157 posts

175 months

Thursday 20th June 2013
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.....um.

When I plug it into the receiver it doesn't work (make any noise) when the other ones work on the same connection.

I'm afraid that's as much as I can work out.

(Feeling pretty thick right now!)

FlossyThePig

4,138 posts

266 months

Thursday 20th June 2013
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Can you get the grill off the front?

If you can you may be able to identify the drive unit(s) and find a replacement. It may be a broken connection inside.

CDP

8,019 posts

277 months

Thursday 20th June 2013
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Is it mains powered?

If not you have nothing to fear in opening it up and nothing really to lose in having a go at looking inside.

I'd expect to see a loose wire somewhere.

Bebop Beru

Original Poster:

157 posts

175 months

Friday 21st June 2013
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Nope, not mains powered.

I'll pry off the cover tonight and have a look see.

Ray Singh

3,078 posts

253 months

Friday 21st June 2013
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I once was given a pair of B&W DM110s of which one was not working.
Took the driver out and had a look and the small connection from the coil to the speaker had broken.
Ten minutes with a soldering iorn and job jobbed.

Dont have them any more though.....

CDP

8,019 posts

277 months

Friday 21st June 2013
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Ray Singh said:
I once was given a pair of B&W DM110s of which one was not working.
Took the driver out and had a look and the small connection from the coil to the speaker had broken.
Ten minutes with a soldering iorn and job jobbed.

Dont have them any more though.....
I'm expecting it will be something simple like that. Shorted or broken coils are very unlikely in comparison.

TonyRPH

13,472 posts

191 months

Saturday 22nd June 2013
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An easy way to test:

Disconnect the speaker form the amp.

Get an 'AA' battery (any 1.5v battery will do!) - and connect two wires to the speaker, and briefly touch these wires to the battery.

You should hear a scratchy type of sound as the wires make contact.

If you get nothing - then the speaker (or something within the cabinet) is open circuit.

If you have a multimeter, and know how to use it - you can check the speaker on the ohms range as well - you should get something between 4 to 8 ohms.

The above tests are not conclusive - if the speaker is blown* it could measure close to ok, and even pass the battery test - but could sound distorted.

  • in speaker terms 'blown' has many definitions. It can be distorting, short circuit, open circuit or there could even be cone damage.

Bebop Beru

Original Poster:

157 posts

175 months

Saturday 22nd June 2013
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Connecting a battery didn't do anything annoyingly.

Opened up the speaker but couldn't see any loose connections. Would it be an obvious thing?

TonyRPH

13,472 posts

191 months

Saturday 22nd June 2013
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It sounds like the speaker coil itself may be open circuit.

There are specialist companies who can recoil it if you feel it's worth it.

See pic below showing a breakdown of a typical loudspeaker drive unit.


Bebop Beru

Original Poster:

157 posts

175 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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Interesting.

I opened up the speaker again and tried touching the wires from the amp to what I believe to be the driver and it worked (similar to the red part on the speaker picture below). Which would lead me to believe that it is a cable/wire problem. However, none seem loose and I can't access the very back of the casing where the wires end and it looks like a circuit board.



Are these normally removable?

LordLoveLength

2,290 posts

153 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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Yes it will be removeable - is there a couple of screws holding it in place?
Is there a fuse on the board? - may be glass, may be an odd looking plastic 'blob' but probably identified on the silk screen as 'F1' or similar

TonyRPH

13,472 posts

191 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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Sounds like it could be a dry joint then.

It's not unknown for the crossover inductors to work loose with vibration and go dry joint.

It could even be the soldering on the terminals themselves (where they terminate to the crossover PC board).

I also found a thread on an AV forum where a contributor said that the wires in his had come loose.