Bye bye Panasonic plasma TVs

[FlossyThePig]

Panasonic throws in towel on plasma tellies

[Zod]

Glad I got my VT50. I suppose this was inevitable though. They were never going to devleop 4K plasma screens.

[irocfan]

wow - that's a bit of a shocker. I'd better hope that my VT65 doesn't go pop anytime soon

[legzr1]

Don't get too upset just yet.

Word is Rueters got it wrong and Panasonic have no plans to stop production in the immediate future.

Cheap st LCD for £400 for 50" killed off Pioneers excellent TV just as lossy MP3 is trying to kill off music quality - here's hoping Panasonic stick with it.


http://www.whathifi.com/news/panasonic-denies-repo...

[mp3manager]

As a Kuro owner since 2009, I've being waiting to see what exactly Panasonic would do with the Pioneer IP they bought. Looks like diddly squat.
Never really liked the Panasonics anyway, as despite being the best of the current manufacturers, they were still built down to a price and didn't embrace the enthusiast market in the same way Pioneer did.

My Kuro will be out of warranty next year, so I've been thinking of a replacement and there's nothing really on the horizon until 4k on OLED.

[MissChief]

mp3manager said:

As a Kuro owner since 2009, I've being waiting to see what exactly Panasonic would do with the Pioneer IP they bought. Looks like diddly squat.
Never really liked the Panasonics anyway, as despite being the best of the current manufacturers, they were still built down to a price and didn't embrace the enthusiast market in the same way Pioneer did.

My Kuro will be out of warranty next year, so I've been thinking of a replacement and there's nothing really on the horizon until 4k on OLED.

Pioneer embraced the enthusiast market, like you said. And made huge losses that eventually led to them dropping TV's completely and selling out to Panasonic. There's little money in TV's these days. Everyone expects everything for less than £500.

[Driller]

Thank God for that, this will finally put an end to the ridiculous Panasonic vs Samsung debate.

[tdm34]

mp3manager said:

As a Kuro owner since 2009, I've being waiting to see what exactly Panasonic would do with the Pioneer IP they bought. Looks like diddly squat.
Never really liked the Panasonics anyway, as despite being the best of the current manufacturers, they were still built down to a price and didn't embrace the enthusiast market in the same way Pioneer did.

My Kuro will be out of warranty next year, so I've been thinking of a replacement and there's nothing really on the horizon until 4k on OLED.

I'd have a peep at a properly calibrated ZT/VT65 then, you'll be pleasantly surprised, they've finally nailed the Kuro ghost imo

[tdm34]

Panasonic will have a range of Plasma sets next year, it wont be a massive range but they'll be signing off production with a couple of belters
i'm reliably informed.

They launch their new 4k LCD WT600 series sets this month, and their 4k OLED sets will be on stream by this time next year.

[Patch1875]

mp3manager said:

As a Kuro owner since 2009, I've being waiting to see what exactly Panasonic would do with the Pioneer IP they bought. Looks like diddly squat.
Never really liked the Panasonics anyway, as despite being the best of the current manufacturers, they were still built down to a price and didn't embrace the enthusiast market in the same way Pioneer did.

My Kuro will be out of warranty next year, so I've been thinking of a replacement and there's nothing really on the horizon until 4k on OLED.

I'm still on my 2005 pioneer can't bring myself to buy anything else at the moment, picture quality still puts current screens to shame.

[tdm34]

Patch1875 said:

mp3manager said:

As a Kuro owner since 2009, I've being waiting to see what exactly Panasonic would do with the Pioneer IP they bought. Looks like diddly squat.
Never really liked the Panasonics anyway, as despite being the best of the current manufacturers, they were still built down to a price and didn't embrace the enthusiast market in the same way Pioneer did.

My Kuro will be out of warranty next year, so I've been thinking of a replacement and there's nothing really on the horizon until 4k on OLED.

I'm still on my 2005 pioneer can't bring myself to buy anything else at the moment, picture quality still puts current screens to shame.

I had a Pioneer PDP507 XDE so probably the same set as you have I replaced
That with a Panasonic 50VT20 which was a step up in performance
Current ST range Plasmas will easily beat that, with the GT/VT/ZT It's total annihilation
I'm afraid, try And see one in appropriate lighting conditions not overly bright shop
Conditions, you'll soon change your mind.

[E31Shrew]

Patch1875 said:

mp3manager said:

As a Kuro owner since 2009, I've being waiting to see what exactly Panasonic would do with the Pioneer IP they bought. Looks like diddly squat.
Never really liked the Panasonics anyway, as despite being the best of the current manufacturers, they were still built down to a price and didn't embrace the enthusiast market in the same way Pioneer did.

My Kuro will be out of warranty next year, so I've been thinking of a replacement and there's nothing really on the horizon until 4k on OLED.

I'm still on my 2005 pioneer can't bring myself to buy anything else at the moment, picture quality still puts current screens to shame.

Me too. Just about to move house, and have spent the past day or two removing the main AV cable to the box , that I plastered in 8 years ago

[hilly10]

tdm34 said:

Panasonic will have a range of Plasma sets next year, it wont be a massive range but they'll be signing off production with a couple of belters
i'm reliably informed.

They launch their new 4k LCD WT600 series sets this month, and their 4k OLED sets will be on stream by this time next year.

Better start saving then. Always said for the money Panny Plasma rules

[Digger]

So what are the predictions for when the first 4k disc-spinners are going to be available (more importantly, affordable!), as well as associated media of film releases etc, and when will 4k tv output start to be broadcast?

That is what really matters, surely?!

[Pistom]

Driller said:

Thank God for that, this will finally put an end to the ridiculous Panasonic vs Samsung debate.

Yes and let's hope Kia becomes the only manufacturer of cars as we won't realise how st they are.

[Driller]

Pistom said:

Driller said:

Thank God for that, this will finally put an end to the ridiculous Panasonic vs Samsung debate.

Yes and let's hope Kia becomes the only manufacturer of cars as we won't realise how st they are.

Don't be silly, your analogy is inappropriate.

I have Panasonics and Samsungs and the Samsungs are perfectly able to hold their own.

[b0rk]

Digger said:

So what are the predictions for when the first 4k disc-spinners are going to be available (more importantly, affordable!), as well as associated media of film releases etc, and when will 4k tv output start to be broadcast?

That is what really matters, surely?!

Surely 4k will be internet delivered as a primary medium. 4K Bluray isn't even a ratified standard yet so it'll be at least year before players appear. Broadcasts I'd guess 2015/16 before DSAT broadcasts start.

[OldSkoolRS]

I hope not for two reasons:

If it's download then it'll be compressed to reduce the data, which will nullify the benefits of 4K same as some 'HD' channels don't look much better than the SD equivalents although they can still say that it's 'HD' since bitrate doesn't seem to matter.

It'll take ages to download a film since it'll be around 100Gb (unless as per my point above). If I want to watch a film I'll have to think about it the day before...

[vx220]

How much extra time does it take to type Panasonic rather than panny?

And Samsung is only two letters longer that Sammy?

Even those in the industry who potentially say those word hundreds of times a week do not abbreviate them this way.

[Zod]

OldSkoolRS said:

I hope not for two reasons:

If it's download then it'll be compressed to reduce the data, which will nullify the benefits of 4K same as some 'HD' channels don't look much better than the SD equivalents although they can still say that it's 'HD' since bitrate doesn't seem to matter.

It'll take ages to download a film since it'll be around 100Gb (unless as per my point above). If I want to watch a film I'll have to think about it the day before...

Five years ago, people were saying the same about 1080p movies. Internet bandwidth will continue to increase. Downloading 4K movies will not be an issue for people on fibre broadband.