4K TV for £999
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Marlboro

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JulianHJ

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286 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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I was led to believe (probably from another thread on here) there wasn't much point in having a 4K TV that sort of size, unless you were planning on sitting very close to it.

Marlboro

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Monday 12th May 2014
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Go to a richer sounds shop and view it.

You will be amazed.

I'll buy when 50" TV's are £999.

We just need content.

Brian

jmorgan

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308 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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Like to know what theses are like with lower definitions first before I would shell out. How was it with SD?

Marlboro

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Monday 12th May 2014
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Most £200+ Blu-Ray players have 4K upscale software inbuilt.
However....
If you play SD you will get SD.

Currently 4K content will be only via download or Blu-Ray.

B

Don

28,378 posts

308 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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Good to see the screens are coming down in price. I'll buy a 4K screen when a 50" reaches £1500 or so. Slightly early adopting - but not silly money.

I reckon round about then it will be worth releasing movies in 4K on Blu Ray...and that's the real point at which it is worth the bother - when you can get content.

Ved

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199 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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Bit pointless at that screen size though. Good price though but as others have said there is no content yet and when it does arrive the technology behind it will be much better. It's not just about pixels.

marctwo

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284 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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JulianHJ said:
I was led to believe (probably from another thread on here) there wasn't much point in having a 4K TV that sort of size, unless you were planning on sitting very close to it.
Indeed. I would have thought you'd need at the very least 50" to see any difference at normal viewing distances.

I think I'll stick with HD until 4k projectors become more affordable.

mp3manager

4,254 posts

220 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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Marlboro said:
Most £200+ Blu-Ray players have 4K upscale software inbuilt.
However....
If you play SD you will get SD.

Currently 4K content will be only via download or Blu-Ray.

B
No such thing as 4k blu-ray, as it doesn't exist yet...apart from Sony's 'mastered in 4k' blu-ray, which is not quite the same thing.


Oh, and I'll keep repeating this...are there any 4k panels which have the REC2020 colourspace? There's more to 4k than a higher resoultion. wink



Edited by mp3manager on Monday 12th May 14:57

JulianHJ

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Monday 12th May 2014
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Don said:
Good to see the screens are coming down in price. I'll buy a 4K screen when a 50" reaches £1500 or so. Slightly early adopting - but not silly money.

I reckon round about then it will be worth releasing movies in 4K on Blu Ray...and that's the real point at which it is worth the bother - when you can get content.
Something like this perhaps? smile

anonymous-user

78 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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A few things worth noting - 40" is a very small screen for 4K resolution. Visual acuity would indicate that the optimum beneficial viewing distance will be in the order of what you'd typically use as a PC monitor distance. If you're sitting at a regular living room distance, it's unlikely you'll see a benefit over a 1080p display.

Also, the BDA currently have no plans to produce 4K Blu-Ray discs. The technology is there, but simply put - film studios aren't interested. They'd rather it was streamed, and that's the end of it. Sony's server system, and RED's Redray player might be a solution, but the Sony server is limited to Sony kit, and the Redray isn't available to the consumer. Netflix will possibly be the first port of call for 4K/UHD streaming, but your internet speed requirements will be above that of regular broadband (meaning you need fibre, and that's an issue in some areas of Blighty).

Some useful bits regarding visual acuity here, including issues with upscaling in the interim period before native 4K content becomes available: http://www.red.com/learn/red-101/eyesight-4k-resol...

Polarbert

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255 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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As others have said, really no point at that size. I read a while back that the human eye can't really tell much different between 720p and 1080p until after about 32 inch in size, so you wouldn't see hardly any improvement.

jason61c

5,978 posts

198 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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It is strange that people get hooked on 4k. You need a 60" monitor really, how many people are watching proper HD at home? BT and sky do not transmit full HD, so a few blue ray discs at 1080P?


Marlboro

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637 posts

295 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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Think my comment about up-scaling was miss-understood.

I have a Cambridge Azur 752BD Blu-ray player that apparently will upscale.

As for screen size...its not the best example but have you seen the Nintendo 3DS?
That works.

Suspect best 4K screen size will be around 55", dependant on room.

What we can all agree is that there is no content so why bother...

Brian


Don

28,378 posts

308 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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JulianHJ said:
Don said:
Good to see the screens are coming down in price. I'll buy a 4K screen when a 50" reaches £1500 or so. Slightly early adopting - but not silly money.

I reckon round about then it will be worth releasing movies in 4K on Blu Ray...and that's the real point at which it is worth the bother - when you can get content.
Something like this perhaps? smile
Close enough, indeed. But I'll be needing that 4L Blu Ray player....and some movies! I'll probably start looking into it some more. Thanks for sharing the link!

JulianHJ

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286 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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No worries!

Magic919

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225 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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The standard for UHD will be 84" from what I've seen. Sounds crazy at first, but makes sense once you look at typical viewing distances and resolution.

JulianHJ

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286 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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I was in Currys this morning to pick up a portable speaker, and whilst there had a quick look at the UHD sets on display - some wonderful kit, but still pricey. There was a fantastic curved 55" Samsung that I loved the look of - for £2700. I'd need to wait until they're almost a third of that price before I could justify it.

PAULJ5555

3,554 posts

200 months

Thursday 15th May 2014
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How will Sky do 4k in the future - there only at 720 now.




Rick Cutler

635 posts

241 months

Thursday 15th May 2014
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PAULJ5555 said:
How will Sky do 4k in the future - there only at 720 now.
Not anymore. Some of it is still 720p the majority is 1080. Sky News for example.