Now this is going to be fun to play with!
Now this is going to be fun to play with!
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VEX

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5,259 posts

270 months

Sunday 29th June 2014
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I knew this was coming and I already have a project to design and install for a client!! Should be stunning.

http://blog.dolby.com/2014/06/dolby-atmos-home-the...

If I get permission, I'll post build pictures.

V.

JimbobVFR

2,821 posts

168 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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Would love to see pictures if possible.

What speaker configuration are you going to use? I've seen 7.1.4 mentioned as a likely layout.

OldSkoolRS

7,085 posts

203 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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It could be great in a proper dedicated room, but I think I've hit the limit in a living room install with 7.2* (I tried 9.2 with front heights, but didn't add enough to justify the extra clutter). Heck, since getting some MK S150 tripole side surrounds I've been debating losing the surround backs rather than spend another £1,500 or so upgrading them to (fully) match as they sound so good in 5.2 configuration. I have a room and layout that makes the most of surround backs too with a good 2.5 metres behind the sofa to the back wall.

I wonder how many people will end up installing the full compliment of ATMOS speakers in a non dedicated room and therefore how big the uptake will be? I'm fairly hard core AV myself (with a 10' 2.35:1 projector screen to go with the above speakers), but I just can't see it really taking off myself.

* I know that I don't have 2 discrete subwoofer tracks, just that squeezing a pair of 15"/1500 watt subs into a living room is kind of pushing the limits in a domestic installation really. boxedin

VEX

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5,259 posts

270 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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There is talk of systems run on as low as 5.1.2 (five mains traditional speakers, one sub and two in-ceilings)

The configuration we are looking at installing is a 9.2.4 config (or that could be a 9.4.2 depending what order they put things in) 3 across the front interspersed with two subs, two opposite pairs down the sides, two at the rear and two rows in the ceiling.

It might get slimmed down to a 7 depending on the accoustic layout. My designer is laying it out at the moment. On and a 3m wide, curved screen with masking, a sony 4k projector and an anamorphic lens system.

Should be a fun project.

V.

ASK1974

254 posts

156 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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OldSkoolRS said:
It could be great in a proper dedicated room
This is true of any format but remember Atmos is somewhat smarter than any of the preceding formats (except possibly Auro 3D) and even in 5.1 it should be a decent upgrade - not huge maybe but enough to demonstrate. However I totally agree that once you start adding the 'voice of god' channels, especially if you use all four, speaker positioning is so critical only dedicated rooms will reap the full benefit. We have several high end systems going in just now and they're all being wired for Atmos, the bigger rooms as 7.1.4, the smaller 5.1.2.

OldSkoolRS said:
I wonder how many people will end up installing the full compliment of ATMOS speakers in a non dedicated room and therefore how big the uptake will be? I'm fairly hard core AV myself (with a 10' 2.35:1 projector screen to go with the above speakers), but I just can't see it really taking off myself.
Probably not many from the high street market as it's not easy to install so many speakers without builders works, but within the CI market where all rooms are to some extent bespoke most theatres or media rooms will be designed for it. Regardless Atmos will take over, Dolby are just too big and with £400 receivers coming out in the next few months it will be the defacto standard before you know it. Auro 3D is great but was initially only available on uber high end kit from the likes of Datasat at huge expense. The two will probably reside a bit like DD & DTS but sorry buddy, in a year or two once all movies are being released with Atmos encoding I predict you'll be upgrading your processor or AVR - whichever you have...

Vex, have fun on this one mate sounds interesting.

OldSkoolRS

7,085 posts

203 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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Haha Ask, you're probably right about upgrading my processor in a few years time, though currently it's only meant to be temporary anyway (Onkyo 818 into an Arcam P7). However I keep finding other things to spend on outside of AV (mainly guitar related), so the planned new processor is on the back burner anyway...

Maybe I'll wait to see how ATMOS sounds as my local dealer (Gecko near Newbury) will no doubt have some open days to demo it once available. I'm starting to resist the continual upgrade cycle as I've kind of got to the point where I know I'm really hitting diminishing returns now.

RedLeicester

6,869 posts

269 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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Mixing in Atmos is fun..... if you like migraines.



I wouldn't bet on it becoming a de facto standard too quickly, there's still only a handful of suites that can mix and process it properly, and remarkably few cinemas properly equipped too. There will be some watering down though, and if the new codec standard does appear then it'll become a bit like THX: a once proud name slapped on everything from toaster to washing machine but bearing little resemblance to the original specification.

probedb

824 posts

243 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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The other option is Atmos enabled speakers which basically just have an extra driver etc on top and use reflection to make sounds sound like they're coming from above.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

222 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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Interesting. Would this work with just ceiling mounts for side and rears? I currently have a 7.1 setup arranged in 3.1.4 - where the 3 is the centre a fronts.