HDMI 2.0a + 4K + Home Install = Confused
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Hi there,
I hope someone here can shed some light and clear up the confusion I now have regarding HDMI and 4K etc.
To cut a long story short I did a couple of home installs with HDMI 2.0 rated cables. Today HDMI 2.0a standard was announced.
Boasting higher colour gamut, higher frame rates for 4K etc.
Does that mean that the cables I've slapped in walls will not have a high enough bandwidth to deal with the 2.0a rated devices? (I believe that any new 4K TV's will be supporting 2.0a - as in unreleased ones).
Really don't fancy chasing the walls again!
Cheers for any advice,
T1b
I hope someone here can shed some light and clear up the confusion I now have regarding HDMI and 4K etc.
To cut a long story short I did a couple of home installs with HDMI 2.0 rated cables. Today HDMI 2.0a standard was announced.
Boasting higher colour gamut, higher frame rates for 4K etc.
Does that mean that the cables I've slapped in walls will not have a high enough bandwidth to deal with the 2.0a rated devices? (I believe that any new 4K TV's will be supporting 2.0a - as in unreleased ones).
Really don't fancy chasing the walls again!
Cheers for any advice,
T1b
Depends entirely on the bandwidth supported by the cables.
More expensive cables often go over the requirements of the standards, but the answer may still be yes.
Spec'ing installs for 4k is always going to be tricky until the standards are fully agreed on.
Might be better to run CAT6 everywhere and use converter boxes, certainly more future proof. HDBaseT 2.0 currently supports 4k30, as the standard is updated, the CAT6 cable should be fine as it supports 10-Gigabit Ethernet, which is hugely more than most currently need.
More expensive cables often go over the requirements of the standards, but the answer may still be yes.
Spec'ing installs for 4k is always going to be tricky until the standards are fully agreed on.
Might be better to run CAT6 everywhere and use converter boxes, certainly more future proof. HDBaseT 2.0 currently supports 4k30, as the standard is updated, the CAT6 cable should be fine as it supports 10-Gigabit Ethernet, which is hugely more than most currently need.
Edited by Digitalize on Thursday 9th April 14:24
To get uncompressed video you need two Ethernet runs I believe, due to the fact HDMI has more pins than one RJ45.
The boxes do clever things, and along with uncompressed 4k30 also carry USB2.0, IR, and 100Mb Ethernet.
Unfortuantely, despite the standard being agreed I can't find anything that actually supports it yet!
But on the cable run side of things, stuff the walls with CAT6.
The boxes do clever things, and along with uncompressed 4k30 also carry USB2.0, IR, and 100Mb Ethernet.
Unfortuantely, despite the standard being agreed I can't find anything that actually supports it yet!
But on the cable run side of things, stuff the walls with CAT6.
T1berious said:
Hi there,
I hope someone here can shed some light and clear up the confusion I now have regarding HDMI and 4K etc.
To cut a long story short I did a couple of home installs with HDMI 2.0 rated cables. Today HDMI 2.0a standard was announced.
Boasting higher colour gamut, higher frame rates for 4K etc.
Does that mean that the cables I've slapped in walls will not have a high enough bandwidth to deal with the 2.0a rated devices? (I believe that any new 4K TV's will be supporting 2.0a - as in unreleased ones).
Really don't fancy chasing the walls again!
Cheers for any advice,
T1b
There is no such thing as an HDMI 2 cable, this sort of marketing has been used by cable brands to generate new business. See the following two links for info;I hope someone here can shed some light and clear up the confusion I now have regarding HDMI and 4K etc.
To cut a long story short I did a couple of home installs with HDMI 2.0 rated cables. Today HDMI 2.0a standard was announced.
Boasting higher colour gamut, higher frame rates for 4K etc.
Does that mean that the cables I've slapped in walls will not have a high enough bandwidth to deal with the 2.0a rated devices? (I believe that any new 4K TV's will be supporting 2.0a - as in unreleased ones).
Really don't fancy chasing the walls again!
Cheers for any advice,
T1b
http://www.hdmi.org/consumer/buying_guide.aspx
http://www.hdmi.org/consumer/finding_right_cable.a...
Either way if the cable you've installed is certified 'high speed' then you should be fine for 4K once content arrives.
VEX said:
This is why I do not recommend or install HDMI Cables in walls in my installations.
Cat6 and Coax cables all day, everyday. Maybe with the odd bit of fibre thrown in as well.
HDMI is risky over the specified 7m limit and even more so when buried in walls.
V.
Couldn't agree more. For those of you considering this bare in mind that a pair of baluns will cost quite a bit more than an HDMI cable but in the long run (no pun intended) you avoid such concerns. And replacing cables in a finished wall is not cheap. Fibre + CAT5/6 and you should be fine for many, many years.Cat6 and Coax cables all day, everyday. Maybe with the odd bit of fibre thrown in as well.
HDMI is risky over the specified 7m limit and even more so when buried in walls.
V.
VEX said:
This is why I do not recommend or install HDMI Cables in walls in my installations.
Cat6 and Coax cables all day, everyday. Maybe with the odd bit of fibre thrown in as well.
HDMI is risky over the specified 7m limit and even more so when buried in walls.
V.
Vex, Cat6 and Coax cables all day, everyday. Maybe with the odd bit of fibre thrown in as well.
HDMI is risky over the specified 7m limit and even more so when buried in walls.
V.
Are there any HDMI to Ethernet converters you would recommend or avoid? My home setup is going to be rack mounted in a cupboard and looked at a few devices and found the 'Neet' converters to be ok. You can get IR extenders with them to make it all woman proof so all the remotes of the devices in the cupboard work ok.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Neet%C2%AE-Extender-networ...
These plus the IR extenders look ok and are fairly cheap, but noticed it says 1080p and I need to handle 4k. The Cyp HDbase kit does state that it works with everything ever, but believe they cost a bit. I'm not too bothered by the cost, but all I need to do is connect my TV to the AV Receiver (Yamaha AV3030) so don't want to over do it unnecessarily.
Many thanks
David
You really can't over do it, at the same time you can woefully under spec it.
I only use HDBT stuff, it isn't worth the risk of an install to fail on these parts. It's different for Diy'er who are prepared to out up with the odd drop outs.
Cyp, HDAnywhere and new kid BluStream all look good and prices are falling a little.
V.
I only use HDBT stuff, it isn't worth the risk of an install to fail on these parts. It's different for Diy'er who are prepared to out up with the odd drop outs.
Cyp, HDAnywhere and new kid BluStream all look good and prices are falling a little.
V.
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