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Right my 50 in LG 5 year old plasma died yesterday, so I am on the hunt for a new tele.
SO I popped to currys and was blown away from the display from the 4k TV's. I asked, what can I actually see in 4k as I understand these are all 4k videos, but tv wont look like that, can you show me the one show or sky sports now on that. He couldn't but he pointed out I could lower my output on my virgin box to 720 and then the 4k tv would upscale it and it would be a much better tv. I don't know, this sounds like witch craft.
so am after around 50 inch
http://www.johnlewis.com/panasonic-viera-tx-48c300...
standard run of the mill tele im thinking of getting
http://www.johnlewis.com/sony-bravia-kd49x8005-4k-...
I am tempted by the sony 4k tv as he says that you can play any playstation game through it, I have a ps3 but he says come November ps4 games will go through it as well.
so what should I get, id budgeted around 400 but will up it if its worth it.
I don't want to buy a tv that wont be worth it that will many show re runs of only fools and horses and Scottish football.
SO I popped to currys and was blown away from the display from the 4k TV's. I asked, what can I actually see in 4k as I understand these are all 4k videos, but tv wont look like that, can you show me the one show or sky sports now on that. He couldn't but he pointed out I could lower my output on my virgin box to 720 and then the 4k tv would upscale it and it would be a much better tv. I don't know, this sounds like witch craft.
so am after around 50 inch
http://www.johnlewis.com/panasonic-viera-tx-48c300...
standard run of the mill tele im thinking of getting
http://www.johnlewis.com/sony-bravia-kd49x8005-4k-...
I am tempted by the sony 4k tv as he says that you can play any playstation game through it, I have a ps3 but he says come November ps4 games will go through it as well.
so what should I get, id budgeted around 400 but will up it if its worth it.
I don't want to buy a tv that wont be worth it that will many show re runs of only fools and horses and Scottish football.
Can't tell you which one to get, but rather than going to places like Currys and listening to some oik that has no idea what they're talking about, I'd go to Richer Sounds. You'll get a much better deal, and good advice from the people that work there. Not to mention a 6 year guarantee on all TVs (They're always up for doing a bit of a deal too).
I bought a 48" Samsung 3D LED from there on Saturday, it seems to tick all the boxes and wasn't much more than your budget - didn't bother with 4K as not much content around at the moment. Will wait a few years for that.
I bought a 48" Samsung 3D LED from there on Saturday, it seems to tick all the boxes and wasn't much more than your budget - didn't bother with 4K as not much content around at the moment. Will wait a few years for that.
Edited by JohnStitch on Wednesday 14th October 20:49
If you buy any old 4k TV now, then there's a good chance that it's already out of date as the standards have only just been set by the Ultra HD Alliance last month.
There is only one 4k/UHD TV you should buy now which will remain future-proof and that's the Panasonic TX-65CZ952B, which at £8000, is I'm guessing out of your price range.
Buy the best 1080p TV you can afford now and enjoy it while the market settles down and the manufacturers get the economies of scale right to make proper 4k/UHD TV's viable for the mass market, which will probably take a couple of years anyway.
There is only one 4k/UHD TV you should buy now which will remain future-proof and that's the Panasonic TX-65CZ952B, which at £8000, is I'm guessing out of your price range.
Buy the best 1080p TV you can afford now and enjoy it while the market settles down and the manufacturers get the economies of scale right to make proper 4k/UHD TV's viable for the mass market, which will probably take a couple of years anyway.
Edited by mp3manager on Thursday 15th October 06:34
Go to Currys to view the range of TVs that are on offer, but definitely consider paying a visit to Richer Sounds to do the deal.
Aside from the fact that the RS staff tend to be more knowledgeable and passionate about the kit they are selling (IME), I recently picked up a 55" Samsung LED plus a £300+ soundbar & sub for less than Currys were willing to sell just the TV on its own.
Aside from the fact that the RS staff tend to be more knowledgeable and passionate about the kit they are selling (IME), I recently picked up a 55" Samsung LED plus a £300+ soundbar & sub for less than Currys were willing to sell just the TV on its own.
I was just going to buy online from John Lewis. Are the deals in richer sounds better instore.
The more I read the more I understand there won't be a noticeable difference from 3 m away. Nor will it make the one show seem real.
I sat and watched the mappets in HD last night on a 21 inch in the bedroom and to be honest, because it was the correct size for the room it looked as good as the 4k teles I saw.
I looked at 4k tele for football. But it's 15 a month and you need to join bt for an odd game. I'm guessing 4k broadcasting is years off. And in my budget the tele will be out of date by the time it comes around.
The more I read the more I understand there won't be a noticeable difference from 3 m away. Nor will it make the one show seem real.
I sat and watched the mappets in HD last night on a 21 inch in the bedroom and to be honest, because it was the correct size for the room it looked as good as the 4k teles I saw.
I looked at 4k tele for football. But it's 15 a month and you need to join bt for an odd game. I'm guessing 4k broadcasting is years off. And in my budget the tele will be out of date by the time it comes around.
moanthebairns said:
I was just going to buy online from John Lewis. Are the deals in richer sounds better instore.
The Samsung I bought from Richer Sounds was on offer, plus they discounted a further £150 against a 21" analogue flat-screen I offered as a trade in - they didn't actually want the TV (I've still got it), but they honoured the extra discount, anyway. They also knocked off a small amount more - 'rounding down', as I called it !Whilst haggling with the Currys' guy earlier that day, he said the cumulative 'discounts' they are allowed to offer across the entire store can only amount to 0.4% of total sales. He reckoned that because Currys don't buy their stock (it's mostly supplied on a sale or return basis, apparently), their buying power (and hence the levels of discount they can offer) cannot compete with the likes of Richer Sounds.
How much truth there is in that, I have no idea - but certainly I've always found it much easier to 'negotiate' in Richer Sounds as opposed to Currys / PC World.
No experience of JL so cannot comment.
Buy the best HD screen you can, or buy one that happens to be 4k. You pays your money...
The UK broadcast industry isn't setup for 4k at the moment, and one of the major broadcasters has launched a 4k platform. The rest? They are looking around and shrugging their shoulders at the moment, the industry has been burnt with 'innovation' of last (think 3d) and with falling revenues, rising rights costs and new competition (Netflix, Amazon Prime etc) budgets for innovation are falling.
So don't expect to see much in the way of 4k content from UK providers in the next couple of years. Netflix does 4k, but it's very meh to be honest, it's at the standard of a nice HD broadcast to my eyes.
As somebody said earlier in the thread, the 4k standards are all in a bit of a pickle at the moment, and at the point of broadcast (where I work) nobody really has a set idea on how to create 4k. So until they get it sorted, the consumer market will play catch up.
So pick the best one in terms of what you see as quality, don't put 4k into the equation.
my 2p
The UK broadcast industry isn't setup for 4k at the moment, and one of the major broadcasters has launched a 4k platform. The rest? They are looking around and shrugging their shoulders at the moment, the industry has been burnt with 'innovation' of last (think 3d) and with falling revenues, rising rights costs and new competition (Netflix, Amazon Prime etc) budgets for innovation are falling.
So don't expect to see much in the way of 4k content from UK providers in the next couple of years. Netflix does 4k, but it's very meh to be honest, it's at the standard of a nice HD broadcast to my eyes.
As somebody said earlier in the thread, the 4k standards are all in a bit of a pickle at the moment, and at the point of broadcast (where I work) nobody really has a set idea on how to create 4k. So until they get it sorted, the consumer market will play catch up.
So pick the best one in terms of what you see as quality, don't put 4k into the equation.
my 2p
well, that's it im fed up buying tele's and ended up going for a 4k.
I was going to just buy the normal Panasonic, 1080p top of the range one, but they never had any in stock in richersounds. SO I walked up to john lewis, saw both of them next to each other on dvds, and the tele and there was a slight difference. Very slight, ive came to the conclusion a 4k tele is only good if you are spending £1500 and above.
With this doing 3d as well, (I might never use it but its nice to have) I thought screw it. Richer sounds done a price match then beat it by £10. So it was working out £50 more with a 6 year warranty. So I went for that.
http://www.richersounds.com/product/tv---all/panas...
Definitely not the best tele I could buy, but once 4k kicks off it will do for going in the bedroom. Thank f
k that's over its not like it used to be. I certainly wouldn't be spunking £4000 on a 4k tele.
Its better than my fked plasma, I wouldn't have upgraded though but I badly needed a tv.
I was going to just buy the normal Panasonic, 1080p top of the range one, but they never had any in stock in richersounds. SO I walked up to john lewis, saw both of them next to each other on dvds, and the tele and there was a slight difference. Very slight, ive came to the conclusion a 4k tele is only good if you are spending £1500 and above.
With this doing 3d as well, (I might never use it but its nice to have) I thought screw it. Richer sounds done a price match then beat it by £10. So it was working out £50 more with a 6 year warranty. So I went for that.
http://www.richersounds.com/product/tv---all/panas...
Definitely not the best tele I could buy, but once 4k kicks off it will do for going in the bedroom. Thank f
k that's over its not like it used to be. I certainly wouldn't be spunking £4000 on a 4k tele. Its better than my f
ked plasma, I wouldn't have upgraded though but I badly needed a tv. eps said:
If you're watching sport on a 4K I think that's not going to be that great atm.. I think you need to get someone to show you a 4K showing football or similar and see if you're happy watching it on that.
That's interesting. Very similar to the OP I'm looking at 48-50" at the moment. And in Currys the Panasonic 4K was VERY blurry when running the demo footage of Messi et al running around the pitch.We noticed that virtually all the demo footage is slow moving or computer created graphics so nothing like F1 or action sports. There's probably a reason for that!
Currently veering towards a normal 1080HD non 4K from PanaSamSony if anyone can recommend.
Rich_W said:
eps said:
If you're watching sport on a 4K I think that's not going to be that great atm.. I think you need to get someone to show you a 4K showing football or similar and see if you're happy watching it on that.
That's interesting. Very similar to the OP I'm looking at 48-50" at the moment. And in Currys the Panasonic 4K was VERY blurry when running the demo footage of Messi et al running around the pitch.We noticed that virtually all the demo footage is slow moving or computer created graphics so nothing like F1 or action sports. There's probably a reason for that!
Currently veering towards a normal 1080HD non 4K from PanaSamSony if anyone can recommend.
Went in to buy a 4k Panny and came out with a 1080P LG OLED which was more expensive but the colour definition was outstanding compared to others.
I mainly watch HD channels and whilst the idea of 4k appeals I think there are only a handfull of series on Netflix that offer it up.
My view it's early days in the 4k world and 2-3yrs out at least before we see more mainstream transmissions. Not sure about upscaling technology if the signal source is average to start with.
Get a demo in store and ask that they put though a normal Sky/Cable HD channel to compare different sets. Watching 4k demo video from the TV manufacturers wont help.
I mainly watch HD channels and whilst the idea of 4k appeals I think there are only a handfull of series on Netflix that offer it up.
My view it's early days in the 4k world and 2-3yrs out at least before we see more mainstream transmissions. Not sure about upscaling technology if the signal source is average to start with.
Get a demo in store and ask that they put though a normal Sky/Cable HD channel to compare different sets. Watching 4k demo video from the TV manufacturers wont help.
Zingari said:
Went in to buy a 4k Panny and came out with a 1080P LG OLED which was more expensive but the colour definition was outstanding compared to others.
I mainly watch HD channels and whilst the idea of 4k appeals I think there are only a handfull of series on Netflix that offer it up.
My view it's early days in the 4k world and 2-3yrs out at least before we see more mainstream transmissions. Not sure about upscaling technology if the signal source is average to start with.
Get a demo in store and ask that they put though a normal Sky/Cable HD channel to compare different sets. Watching 4k demo video from the TV manufacturers wont help.
Exactly this tbh. It's rather annoying going into shops to find nothing but promos on 4k. They look amazing. I mainly watch HD channels and whilst the idea of 4k appeals I think there are only a handfull of series on Netflix that offer it up.
My view it's early days in the 4k world and 2-3yrs out at least before we see more mainstream transmissions. Not sure about upscaling technology if the signal source is average to start with.
Get a demo in store and ask that they put though a normal Sky/Cable HD channel to compare different sets. Watching 4k demo video from the TV manufacturers wont help.
But the one show won't look like that. They only have so many tvs transmitting normal TV.
I'm totally uniformed. But with five minutes on Google it has me asking questions that bamboozled some sales people. Richard sounds knew what they were talking about, albeit in a w
ky geeky manner. John Lewis and curry's were hopeless. There main sales pitch was look, look, look. I was amazed as well that curry's and John Lewis offer no discount. I'm not asking for much. I said if you can drop your tele by ten quid to match elsewhere I'll take it. No sir we can't do that, ok I'll walk down the street and buy it for a tenner cheaper. I can't security would pick me up for lowering it as I'd be doing fraud. I'm sat there thinking, its less than two percent. Zingari said:
Went in to buy a 4k Panny and came out with a 1080P LG OLED which was more expensive but the colour definition was outstanding compared to others.
I mainly watch HD channels and whilst the idea of 4k appeals I think there are only a handfull of series on Netflix that offer it up.
My view it's early days in the 4k world and 2-3yrs out at least before we see more mainstream transmissions. Not sure about upscaling technology if the signal source is average to start with.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^I mainly watch HD channels and whilst the idea of 4k appeals I think there are only a handfull of series on Netflix that offer it up.
My view it's early days in the 4k world and 2-3yrs out at least before we see more mainstream transmissions. Not sure about upscaling technology if the signal source is average to start with.
This
Had an LG OLED 55" set delivered yesterday and it is truly excellent straight out of the box. The set up was ridiculously simple suing the "smart" remote and once the lip sync was sorted using the AV all is well in Grey Ghost's house.
I also don't believe 4K will be mainstream for sometime yet and if anyone is downloading 4K content over the internet they should check their data usage and associated bills
moanthebairns said:
Right my 50 in LG 5 year old plasma died yesterday, so I am on the hunt for a new tele.
See my recent thread re getting my 50" LG plasma repaired. £90 all in, including taking it off the wall and putting it back up again.I thought you were a Scot.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
i've just bought a Panasonic 40CX680 for my new extension and from the little messing i have done its superb. once its fitted properly i can give a better review.
when i tested it to make sure all was fine i really noticed how small new tv's are. i have a 42" panasonic Plasma and the 40" was absolutely tiny in comparison.
reviews are great for this telly and you can get the 50" for about £699.
when i tested it to make sure all was fine i really noticed how small new tv's are. i have a 42" panasonic Plasma and the 40" was absolutely tiny in comparison.
reviews are great for this telly and you can get the 50" for about £699.
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