The best current 4K TV, 46-50"

[Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah]

I hope not a duplicate to another thread, feel free to point me in the direction if so.

We are debating a new 4K TV, 46-50". We currently have a D8000 46", which we'll also be keeping, which 5 years ago, I believed, was about the best thing (in the real world) around.

We going to see a Samsung 49KS9000. How does this fair? Are there any other must have models (under £2000) currently on the market?

It needs to be an upgrade to the D8000 picture wise - not bothered about smart/sound quality or anything else, picture quality is all.

[loafer123]

What is its top speed?

Joking apart, this should be in Computers Gadgets and Stuff, or possibly the Council thread...!

[King Herald]

I was browsing at.com earlier today and saw a 55" smart tv for 329 quid!


Seriously?

Same tv with 4K, whatever that is, was 599.

[Speed_Demon]

Gonna struggle to see the increase in picture quality with 4k on that size screen. You'll see more of a difference if you go for HDR though. LG seem 5o be best VFM but Samsung's quality and firmware tends to be better.

[legzr1]

Go for a 55" LG B6 Oled and be done with it.

[anonymous-user]

legzr1 said:

Go for a 55" LG B6 Oled and be done with it.

If he's looking to spend £1999 then I agree.

[anonymous-user]

garyhun said:

legzr1 said:

Go for a 55" LG B6 Oled and be done with it.

If he's looking to spend £1999 then I agree.

Yes, it said £2000.....

[Puggit]

Just bought a Panasonic 50" UHD HDR. We did a lot of research and for our budget this came top.

http://www.panasonic.com/uk/consumer/viera-televis...

[FeelingLucky]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

LG OLEDs *still* racked with near black and uniformity issues.

[Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah]

Thank you all. Just returned from Currys and the Samsung mentioned was right up there, along with a slightly dearer LG oled. The Samsung was £1499, usefully cheaper too

[davek_964]

FeelingLucky said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

LG OLEDs *still* racked with near black and uniformity issues.

But non OLEDs can only manage near black when it should be black. There is no perfect TV.

Having bought one a few weeks ago, I'd also recommend OLED with that budget. The black crushing can be greatly improved with some settings tweaks from AV forums, and no doubt even further with calibration. Having tweaked my settings, I don't feel like I have black crush now.

[Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah]

davek_964 said:

FeelingLucky said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

LG OLEDs *still* racked with near black and uniformity issues.

But non OLEDs can only manage near black when it should be black. There is no perfect TV.

Having bought one a few weeks ago, I'd also recommend OLED with that budget. The black crushing can be greatly improved with some settings tweaks from AV forums, and no doubt even further with calibration. Having tweaked my settings, I don't feel like I have black crush now.

We noted this. Every manufacturer had it's own take on how colours should be portrayed for EG. We agreed that the blacks on the LG OLED were better, but I thought the detail and sharpness on the Samsung edged it - which is what I've always loved about the D8000.

[FeelingLucky]

davek_964 said:

FeelingLucky said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

LG OLEDs *still* racked with near black and uniformity issues.

But non OLEDs can only manage near black when it should be black. There is no perfect TV.

Having bought one a few weeks ago, I'd also recommend OLED with that budget. The black crushing can be greatly improved with some settings tweaks from AV forums, and no doubt even further with calibration. Having tweaked my settings, I don't feel like I have black crush now.

BUT, you'll only see the difference between "near black" (Samsung) and "utterly black" (LG) in a totally darkened room, and *if* that is the way you watch TV, then you're set. (Although you'll STILL probably notice the Samsung transitions better).

[PapaJohns]

How far away do you sit from your screen?

For example if your viewing distance is 10ft away your eyes will just about see the extra pixels in HD, for 4K at the same distance your looking at projector screen sizes at 80"

So take your viewing distance into consideration,to benefit from a 50" panel with 4K that's upto 1.8m max viewing distance .

All this 4K / UHD and now HDR is good technology but remember 'HD Ready' sets ,I believe that's where there at with 4K right now .

OLED is the future too, edge lit panels can't compete


I'm waiting for the OLED to come down in price,

[PapaJohns]

Puggit said:

Just bought a Panasonic 50" UHD HDR. We did a lot of research and for our budget this came top.

http://www.panasonic.com/uk/consumer/viera-televis...

from what Iv seen and read the Hisense M5500/K5510 reviews speak for themselves in that budget/range

[Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah]

FeelingLucky said:

davek_964 said:

FeelingLucky said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

LG OLEDs *still* racked with near black and uniformity issues.

But non OLEDs can only manage near black when it should be black. There is no perfect TV.

Having bought one a few weeks ago, I'd also recommend OLED with that budget. The black crushing can be greatly improved with some settings tweaks from AV forums, and no doubt even further with calibration. Having tweaked my settings, I don't feel like I have black crush now.

BUT, you'll only see the difference between "near black" (Samsung) and "utterly black" (LG) in a totally darkened room, and *if* that is the way you watch TV, then you're set. (Although you'll STILL probably notice the Samsung transitions better).

Not a smarmy arse comment, instead a genuine ??? one, why then could we think we saw a difference in a curry's showroom, which was anything but dark?

[RobDickinson]

Never seen an LCD/LED tv that really wowed me.

Bought an OLED few weeks ago, wow , not cheap but well worth it.

[Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah]

PapaJohns said:

How far away do you sit from your screen?

For example if your viewing distance is 10ft away your eyes will just about see the extra pixels in HD, for 4K at the same distance your looking at projector screen sizes at 80"

So take your viewing distance into consideration,to benefit from a 50" panel with 4K that's upto 1.8m max viewing distance .

All this 4K / UHD and now HDR is good technology but remember 'HD Ready' sets ,I believe that's where there at with 4K right now .

OLED is the future too, edge lit panels can't compete


I'm waiting for the OLED to come down in price,

I would say 12ft (actually, edit, 10 is prob nearer) but I'd need to measure. My previous research suggested that 46" for this viewing distance is optimum, but I think up to 55" could be in the remit of acceptable.

Edited by Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah on Monday 12th December 00:29

[Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah]

RobDickinson said:

Never seen an LCD/LED tv that really wowed me.

Bought an OLED few weeks ago, wow , not cheap but well worth it.

Our Samsung D8000 5 years ago wowed me. At the time I honestly felt it was the best picture out there. I budgeted then £800 for a TV, and spent 2.5x that, as after seeing it nothing else would 'do'!

A very critical/ hard to please friend after we got it said 'fck me, it's like looking out of a window, except it's sharper!'

I'm now slightly gutted that I've found TV's that surpass it, but that's technical advances for you.

[RobDickinson]

I upgraded from a 12 year old 720p panny plasma