Turntable hum
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Gavstar

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264 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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I get an unacceptable hum through the speakers when I switch the amp to phono but only when connecting the turntable with phono extension cables. It’s worse when other rca cables are connected for the CD player and Apple airport, and disappears when I don’t use the extensions. I’ve tried different extensions too.

Could it be the amp? When I touch the connectors at the amp end it causes more feedback and noise.

I also bought a new turntable as thought it was originally down to the old one (and a good excuse to replace it!)

boxedin

1,556 posts

150 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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Doesn't your turntable have a ground wire?

Gavstar

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Sunday 24th September 2017
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boxedin said:
Doesn't your turntable have a ground wire?
The old one did but new one doesn’t. It’s a Rega P1.

legzr1

3,885 posts

163 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Shot in the dark here but does the TT use the RCA leads as an earth with the possibility the extension leads are breaking this earth?

SS2.

14,687 posts

262 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Gavstar said:
Could it be the amp?
More likely an issue with the turntable's earthing - a fairly common complaint with the P1, AIUI.

15 minutes Googling followed by a chat with the dealer might time well spent.

Gavstar

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Monday 25th September 2017
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SS2. said:
More likely an issue with the turntable's earthing - a fairly common complaint with the P1, AIUI.

15 minutes Googling followed by a chat with the dealer might time well spent.
Had same issue with old turntable though when using the extension cables. Was bought from Amazon though, so no chance of speaking to the dealer unfortunately.

TonyRPH

13,474 posts

192 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Gavstar said:
I get an unacceptable hum through the speakers when I switch the amp to phono but only when connecting the turntable with phono extension cables. It’s worse when other rca cables are connected for the CD player and Apple airport, and disappears when I don’t use the extensions. I’ve tried different extensions too.

Could it be the amp? When I touch the connectors at the amp end it causes more feedback and noise.

I also bought a new turntable as thought it was originally down to the old one (and a good excuse to replace it!)
A phono input is very high sensitivity.

A typical phono input has a sensitivity of 4mV and other inputs are around 200mV.

You need really, really well screened cables if trying to extend it - and said cables also need to be of very low capacitance to avoid losing treble.

Generally, it's not a good idea to use long cables.


Gavstar

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Monday 25th September 2017
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TonyRPH said:
A phono input is very high sensitivity.

A typical phono input has a sensitivity of 4mV and other inputs are around 200mV.

You need really, really well screened cables if trying to extend it - and said cables also need to be of very low capacitance to avoid losing treble.

Generally, it's not a good idea to use long cables.

Any recommendations for such cables please? The extension only needs to be less than a metre, so not long at all.

TonyRPH

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192 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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I'm actually struggling to find anything suitable.

This is an option but you'd need two...

Or this (but you'd need a couple of female > female adaptors)

ETA: You could also try routing the cable well away from mains cables and transformers - that should reduce any hum.

But cheap cables tend to be poorly screened (the screen usually doesn't cover the entire circumference of the inner conductor) and that's why they easily pick up hum fields.



Edited by TonyRPH on Monday 25th September 19:06