Oppo stopping production.
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https://www.oppodigital.com/farewell.aspx
https://twitter.com/OPPODIGITAL
Not that I have anything but all of their stuff manufacturing they are pulling out of?
Edit, meant to add, streaming starting to make impacts?
https://twitter.com/OPPODIGITAL
Not that I have anything but all of their stuff manufacturing they are pulling out of?
Edit, meant to add, streaming starting to make impacts?
Edited by jmorgan on Tuesday 3rd April 06:52
bass2rez said:
This is an unexpected development. Why would a company voluntarily cease trading when they make highly regarded high end hi-fi equipment? I have their PM3 headphones and they are excellent. Seems a very strange decision to me.
Inadequate sales to cover minimal overheads, with no expectation of a change in the trend. They're supporting kit during their end of life, which is to be applauded.AVSforum e-mailed Oppo.
UPDATE: I emailed Oppo with some questions about this announcement; here are the responses I received.
Q: Why is Oppo terminating its product manufacturing?
A: The revenue from sales cannot offset the cost of developing players and maintaining a production facility.
Q: The announcement says Oppo will “gradually” stop making products. How gradually?
A: We are in the process of manufacturing our last batch of products. If there is no change to delay or speed up the production, we expect the last product to come out of the factory in June.
Q: When production stops, will you continue to sell products in your inventory? How long do you anticipate that might last?
A: Yes, we will continue to sell products in our inventory. It is hard to predict how long that might last; based on the previous rate, it may last 2-3 months. However, demand may slow down given the announcement, or perhaps people will want to get products while they can and the inventory will be sold out quickly.
Q: What will happen to the company in the long term? Will it change its focus in some way, or will it stay open long enough to support its products for some period of time? Are we talking months or years?
A: The company will transition from product development to product support. We are committed to supporting the products for as long as we can. For those who just purchased one of our products or will purchase them, we will honor the 2-year manufacturer’s warranty, so we are talking about years rather than months. This is also why we made the announcement now, so customers can make an informed decision regarding future purchases, and we can plan to have the proper resources to support the customers and products.
Q: Regarding the UDP-203 and 205 UHD Blu-ray players, have you released a firmware update that addresses the Sony implementation of Dolby Vision in its TVs? If you haven’t issued that update, do you expect to? If so, when?
A: We have firmware that supports Sony’s implementation of Dolby Vision in its TVs. The firmware is undergoing testing by Dolby right now. We hope to make it available to customers as soon as the test concludes that there is no problem with existing Dolby Vison-capable TVs as well as Sony TVs.
UPDATE: I emailed Oppo with some questions about this announcement; here are the responses I received.
Q: Why is Oppo terminating its product manufacturing?
A: The revenue from sales cannot offset the cost of developing players and maintaining a production facility.
Q: The announcement says Oppo will “gradually” stop making products. How gradually?
A: We are in the process of manufacturing our last batch of products. If there is no change to delay or speed up the production, we expect the last product to come out of the factory in June.
Q: When production stops, will you continue to sell products in your inventory? How long do you anticipate that might last?
A: Yes, we will continue to sell products in our inventory. It is hard to predict how long that might last; based on the previous rate, it may last 2-3 months. However, demand may slow down given the announcement, or perhaps people will want to get products while they can and the inventory will be sold out quickly.
Q: What will happen to the company in the long term? Will it change its focus in some way, or will it stay open long enough to support its products for some period of time? Are we talking months or years?
A: The company will transition from product development to product support. We are committed to supporting the products for as long as we can. For those who just purchased one of our products or will purchase them, we will honor the 2-year manufacturer’s warranty, so we are talking about years rather than months. This is also why we made the announcement now, so customers can make an informed decision regarding future purchases, and we can plan to have the proper resources to support the customers and products.
Q: Regarding the UDP-203 and 205 UHD Blu-ray players, have you released a firmware update that addresses the Sony implementation of Dolby Vision in its TVs? If you haven’t issued that update, do you expect to? If so, when?
A: We have firmware that supports Sony’s implementation of Dolby Vision in its TVs. The firmware is undergoing testing by Dolby right now. We hope to make it available to customers as soon as the test concludes that there is no problem with existing Dolby Vison-capable TVs as well as Sony TVs.
B17NNS said:
I bought a UDP-203 last month.
Physical media is dying a slow death sadly. The price of 4K discs is expensive.
All things may be relative but 4k UHD discs are not expensive, they're super cheap.Physical media is dying a slow death sadly. The price of 4K discs is expensive.
Back in the Laserdisc days, I regularly spent upwards of £70+ on boxsets imported from America. That's movies in 425 lines and with Dolby Surround audio...AC3 if I was lucky.
Similar story with DVD, back in '97 and importing 480 line discs with Dolby Digital Audio, DTS if I was lucky.
As a Blu-Ray Steelbook collector, I won't even begin to list how much I've paid for some of the rare Steelbooks.
Now with UHD, 2160 lines with lossless audio and now with HDR...all for £20 which seems to be the average price. Bargain!!
I've been thinking of upgrading my Oppo BDP-83 to a 203 for some time now. Now they've made this announcement, it seems the perfect time to buy one.
Edited by mp3manager on Tuesday 3rd April 19:56
Oppo seemed to have a limited range. When I got my 4k player the Oppo had just released one and the price and reviews really meant the Samsung won. Nothing bad for the Oppo, just the Samsung did the same.
When bandwidth becomes a bit more available I expect all players to go but I don't go for all 4k films on disk. Just the keepers and where HDR is a spectacle.
When bandwidth becomes a bit more available I expect all players to go but I don't go for all 4k films on disk. Just the keepers and where HDR is a spectacle.
jmorgan said:
When bandwidth becomes a bit more available I expect all players to go but I don't go for all 4k films on disk. Just the keepers and where HDR is a spectacle.
I rent 4K discs (in the limited cases they are available) from Cinemaparadiso, works out something like £2 a disc since I'm not the kind of person to rewatch a film unless a good few years have passed. I've also recently upgraded my Netflix account to 4K as I've added a 4K video processor to my video chain, so I can finally pass 4K from source to projector. Granted I'm still in the seting up phase, but so far I've found the quality of streamed 4K/HDR content has been very good when viewing on the big screen, but UHD discs still have the edge on my system (both played from the same Sony X800 source). I'll keep using discs as long as I can to maximise quality on my system.I considered buying the Oppo UHD203 as I liked the subtitle shift feature on my BDP93 (I have a 2.40:1 screen and sometimes subtitles get lost off the bottom). I also knew from previous experience, that discs played back at native resolution don't really look any different from one player to another provided any in player processing is turned off, so it was only these extra features where Oppo made sense to me. I don't need the tone mapping function of the Oppo either since my Lumagen provides this (and arguably even better product support than Oppo).
Even as an existing Oppo owner I decided it wasn't worth the large premium over the Sony, so it doesn't really surprise me that Oppo see this as an unsustainable business model. It's still a shame to see them go though.
OldSkoolRS said:
I rent 4K discs (in the limited cases they are available) from Cinemaparadiso
Didn't know about that service, looks like a great option.Up until now I've been buying and then re-selling, looks like a better alternative.
Do you get to choose the format (4K)?
You say availability is an issue?
Edited by B17NNS on Wednesday 4th April 21:37
It's just a matter of selecting which format when you add the disc to your list. There aren't that many though; for example my current list has 10 titles in it and of those 2 are UHD, but there is no extra cost (equally DVDs are no cheaper either, but I generally avoid those now).
I've been upscaling BDs to my projector for a while, but now I'm able to play 4K right through the chain I really notice how clean the image looks and the detail (such as the airplane instruments in 'Sully' we watched last weekend). I just need to sort out HDR to SDR tone mapping in the new Lumagen as I'm still learning what the extra functions are compared to my previous model...
I've been upscaling BDs to my projector for a while, but now I'm able to play 4K right through the chain I really notice how clean the image looks and the detail (such as the airplane instruments in 'Sully' we watched last weekend). I just need to sort out HDR to SDR tone mapping in the new Lumagen as I'm still learning what the extra functions are compared to my previous model...
jmorgan said:
Oppo seemed to have a limited range. When I got my 4k player the Oppo had just released one and the price and reviews really meant the Samsung won. Nothing bad for the Oppo, just the Samsung did the same.
When bandwidth becomes a bit more available I expect all players to go but I don't go for all 4k films on disk. Just the keepers and where HDR is a spectacle.
I would of still payed extra for the oppo on looks alone compared to the Samsung, anyway oppo say they are still going to offer customer support which is a relief.When bandwidth becomes a bit more available I expect all players to go but I don't go for all 4k films on disk. Just the keepers and where HDR is a spectacle.
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